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Hillary Unhinged! Tulsi Gabbard & Jill Stein Russian assets...
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIf she's not planning to run, it leaves an open and intriguing question why she's pushing that theory when Gabbard is pretty insignificant in the polls at this point.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostIs she pushing it about Gabbard? The article claims that, but produces no quote demonstrating that. For example:
"They are also going to do third party again," Clinton, 71, said. "I'm not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, referring to Gabbard, without mentioning the Hawaii representative by name.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI think for many of them their sudden new-found hawkish positions are a direct result of their being the opposite of what Trump is doing. IOW, if Trump was talking about staying in Syria indefinitely they would be declaring that we need to get out.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI believe the response to whether Hillary was referring to Tulsi Gabbard was, "if he nesting doll fits."
Gabbard in turn said that Hillary is the "embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot" which infest the Democratic Party
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostIs she pushing it about Gabbard? The article claims that, but produces no quote demonstrating that.
For example:
"They are also going to do third party again," Clinton, 71, said. "I'm not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, referring to Gabbard, without mentioning the Hawaii representative by name.
Okay, so how do they know she was referring to Gabbard if Clinton didn't mention her by name? Was there some context indicating that? Because if there was, the article didn't provide it. At least based on the quotes given, this seems to simply be a speculation of the article's writer.
By Aaron Blake
Oct. 18, 2019 at 5:02 p.m. EDT
At Tuesday night’s Democratic presidential debate, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) hit back at critics who charged she’s too close to Russia. “This morning, a CNN commentator said on national television that I’m an asset of Russia,” she said. “Completely despicable.”
Gabbard won’t be happy to hear Hillary Clinton’s latest interview. Nor will President Trump or another of Clinton’s 2016 opponents, whom Clinton has now lodged similar accusations about.
In a conversation on former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe’s podcast, “Campaign HQ,” Clinton suggested the Russians are leveraging a number of top U.S. politicians. She suggested Russia had kompromat, or compromising information, on Trump. She accused 2016 Green Party nominee Jill Stein of being a “Russian asset.” And she suggested Russia might back Gabbard as a third-party candidate.
Campaign HQ / Hillary Clinton
I'm listening to the podcast now. It's about a lot more than Gabbard. She was a congressional staffer during the Nixon impeachment proceedings, and helped write the bipartisan staff report, Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment.
I don't know enough about Gabbard to know why she's fielding these questions, but they're obviously talking about her. I don't know enough about Stein, either, but I do remember she showed up in the December 2015 photo with Putin and Flynn.
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Something I hadn't remembered, because I didn't know the name, because there was no Steele dossier at the time, but Peskov's in there, too.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
I don't know enough about Gabbard to know why she's fielding these questions, but they're obviously talking about her. I don't know enough about Stein, either, but I do remember she showed up in the December 2015 photo with Putin and Flynn.
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Something I hadn't remembered, because I didn't know the name, because there was no Steele dossier at the time, but Peskov's in there, too.
Now it's not just 'Trump and maybe Stein', but also Gabbard.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostJill Stein was insignificant in the polls as well. So was Ralph Nader. You don't have to be popular in order to sway an election.
Obviously she wants to run, but she's testing the waters first.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostNPCs
What Is NPC, the Pro-Trump Internet’s New Favorite Insult?
Twitter has barred hundreds of right-wing accounts for posing as soulless, “nonplayable” liberal activists.
By Kevin Roose
Oct. 16, 2018
Last week, a trolling campaign organized by right-wing internet users spilled over onto Twitter. The campaign, which was born in the fever swamps of 4chan and Reddit message boards, involved creating hundreds of fictional personas with gray cartoon avatars, known as NPCs. These accounts posed as liberal activists and were used to spread — among other things — false information about November’s midterm elections.
Over the weekend, Twitter responded by suspending about 1,500 accounts associated with the NPC trolling campaign. The accounts violated Twitter’s rules against “intentionally misleading election-related content,” according to a person familiar with the company’s enforcement process. The person, who would speak only anonymously, was not authorized to discuss the decision.
And to the next question:
And this is a thing … why?
It’s a long story, but the short version is that a group of young, extremely pro-Trump internet trolls have spent the past several years mocking anti-Trump people as whiny, easily triggered snowflakes who are primarily motivated by social acceptance rather than by logic and critical thinking.
Many of Mr. Trump’s supporters — including, as of last week, Kanye West — put their support for him in the language of freethinking rationality and paint the other side as being motivated by blind loyalty and identity politics. (Mr. West said of his pre-Trump-supporting days, “I was programmed to think from a victimized mentality.”)
The NPC meme fits neatly into this narrative and offers Mr. Trump’s online supporters an easy shorthand way to paint liberals as humorless prudes who say “Drumpf” because the HBO host John Oliver told them to, who march in protests and put on pink “pussyhats” because they’re the popular things to do, and whose views can’t withstand scrutiny.
(And then, when progressives object to a meme that portrays them as unthinking automatons, it becomes another piece of evidence: See? The left can’t take a joke.)
Our favorite ex-Russian may not be useful for much, but he's always down for the unwitting irony.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI think for many of them their sudden new-found hawkish positions are a direct result of their being the opposite of what Trump is doing. IOW, if Trump was talking about staying in Syria indefinitely they would be declaring that we need to get out.
I think its just part of the game of politics at times, that two sides define themselves as the mirror opposition to the other side.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Postirony.
No need to hide in the closet, just come out, be honest, and admit that you believe in conspiracies.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostJill Stein was insignificant in the polls as well. So was Ralph Nader. You don't have to be popular in order to sway an election.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI've seen Conservatives have similar oppositeisms about Obama's decisions, even when they were completely compatible with Conservative philosophy.
I think its just part of the game of politics at times, that two sides define themselves as the mirror opposition to the other side.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostAs much as I don't like the guy (mainly because I dislike most government officials with that type of power, not just for partisan reasons), I've got to give Obama credit for being hesitant about the Libya attack. And boy was he reamed a new one by both sides, the left and right. The left was pleading for him do something about the humanitarian BS they typically decry, and the right was attacking him for being weak and militarily feckless (in fact, i remember specific posters on this very board). Then, of course, in the aftermath of the country becoming an abysmal tragedy, the right attacked him again for that terrible mistake.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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