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Yet more ranting and raving. I guess that's all you've got. Because if you had an actual case to make, you've had plenty of opportunity to make it.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19 -
Of course it is because you’re incapable of answer any of it.Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Russia interfered with the US election.
Americans worked directly with Russians to put Trump in the WH.
The Trump campaign worked directly with the Russians to change the election.
The Russians changed votes to get Trump into the WH.
These are all separate claims Jim, with only the first one having any evidence to support it. The rest are an invention, by Democrats, to undermine the Trump administration and to make Trump appear to be working for the Russians. Muller, Congress, nor anyone has been able to prove the rest are true. Your inability to note this is telling Jim. In your movie, Trump is the evil supervillain, ready to destroy us all. In reality, Trump is simply a person that makes good and bad decisions. Your disconnect from reality is why only JimL, Sam, Tassman, or other anti Trumpers all agree with you and you have failed to convince anyone else. You won’t listen to a word anyone says, so I don’t even bother. You’re just like the Jorge of civics, so convinced your opponents are either evil or stupid, you can’t see any possibility beyond that.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 10-29-2019, 06:34 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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Perfect- thanks pix! So just to point out just how completely disconnected from reality and over the top irrational you are - I have ONLY every claimed (1) in your list.Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
How you got those other 3 I do not know, my guess is you have perverted "The Russian interference was aimed at hindering Hillary and helping Trump" and "Trump has made attempts to get help from foreign entities" (re 2016 public request for russia to find Hillaries email and the now infamous Trump Tower meeting hoping to get dirt on Hillary) into those other 3 claims. But those other three claims, as far as what I have said on this site, are from your own imagination Pix.
Note also that the actual claims I have made are simply facts or are directly supported by the facts. But you hear something else, something that does not exist.
No pix. That statement is just absurd. You can't whitewash Trump into being somehow 'normal'. Trump is a person that mocks the rule of law. That seeks what benefits himself at the expense of others, even the entire country. He is abusive to those around him on a scale not observed in my lifetime of a president. He ignores the counsel of his experts, he demands those around him praise him openly - to name a few of the excesses and abusive elements of this man. There is very little about him on a given day that is normal or that reflects who most of us are - except perhaps at our absolute worst moments. What he boasts of, most of us would be ashamed. He literally has more in common with someone like Kim Jong Un or Vladimir Putin that he does any of us.Originally posted by pix
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-29-2019, 07:30 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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And the evidence for the first one is far weaker than most people realize.Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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Linking to vox. Really?Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
I guess I assume too much from you Pix - like that you care about the truth. I just grabbed the first of a page of links covering that story (unlike the tripe MM posts from Brietbart)
Let's see:
NY Times:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/b...-election.html
thehill:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...ia-meddling-in
politico:https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...-report-040736
CBS news: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-...2020-meddling/
NBC news: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-...2020-meddling/
reuters:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1JT2YB
APnews:https://apnews.com/8b95a7cf7bcb4585b00c038be2257ba4
USAToday, slate, CNN, NYpost, Washington Post, PBS, NPR, LATimes, and the list goes on and on for pages.
EVEN FOX NEWS: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fin...te-intel-panel
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-29-2019, 08:12 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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Denial must be a very pleasant place. Please read at least one of the links I posted above. Fox is there, so your 'mind' probably wont be too contaminated by looking.Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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Trump, in true Orwellian fashion, did admonish his supporters at one of his cult rallies, to, and I paraphrase "stick with us, don't believe the jounalists, what you see and what you read is not what's happening." He must keep "1984" on his bedside table along with Mein Kampf.Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostLast edited by JimL; 10-29-2019, 08:47 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Your mass delusions are funny.
“RUSSIA!!!!!!!”
You scream, like a lunatic, but when it comes to explaining precisely what they did or how they changed up a single vote, you back off and call others disconnected from reality when you haven’t made a point. What effect did Russia have on the election? What did they do to put Trump into the WH? These are the questions you can’t answer without making yourself look crazy and that’s why you gaslight me and balk on making a point. What did Russia do that put into the WH? Be specific because Russia has been doing this for decades, Democrats only started caring when their chosen one wasn’t elected and they’ve been trying to win the 2016 election, everyday after.
It’s the logical conclusion of why I should spend my time worrying about Russia and what they do in 2020.How you got those other 3 I do not know, my guess is you have perverted "The Russian interference was aimed at hindering Hillary and helping Trump" and "Trump has made attempts to get help from foreign entities" (re 2016 public request for russia to find Hillaries email and the now infamous Trump Tower meeting hoping to get dirt on Hillary) into those other 3 claims. But those other three claims, as far as what I have said on this site, are from your own imagination Pix.
Not a single vote was changed. Fact.
Most of the money Russia spent, was after the election. Fact.
Russia’s major goal was to stir the pot and make Americans doubt the election process. Fact.
What did Russia do Jim and what party has been doing Russia’s work? Your tin foil hat, squarely on your head while calling others crazy, undermines everything you say. Your gaslighting and it’s obvious to anyone not caught up in your delusions, so answer the logical steps:
Russia interfered in the election of 2016 by doing (blink) through (blink methods) which, put Trump into the WH.
This is your logic, own it.
It’s where your logic leads Jim. Own it and stop hiding from it.Note also that the actual claims I have made are simply facts or are directly supported by the facts. But you hear something else, something that does not exist.
And again, you post your opinions, as facts, and wonder why those already not inclined to agree with you, are not jumping on board. Your opinions are noted and dismissed as such, waiting for support.No pix. That statement is just absurd. You can't whitewash Trump into being somehow 'normal'. Trump is a person that mocks the rule of law. That seeks what benefits himself at the expense of others, even the entire country. He is abusive to those around him on a scale not observed in my lifetime of a president. He ignores the counsel of his experts, he demands those around him praise him openly - to name a few of the excesses and abusive elements of this man. There is very little about him on a given day that is normal or that reflects who most of us are - except perhaps at our absolute worst moments. What he boasts of, most of us would be ashamed. He literally has more in common with someone like Kim Jong Un or Vladimir Putin that he does any of us.
JimLast edited by lilpixieofterror; 10-29-2019, 10:15 AM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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That’s nice and therefore what is the logical conclusion to your freak outs? Did Trump work with Russia or not?Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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Look and see how well you handle being wrong. There was nothing wrong with the link to vox, was there! It was a legitimate story covered by all legitimate news outlets.Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
I'm not having 'freak outs'. I'm just not responding as you'd like to your rants. Not sure what response you are looking for, but what I'm doing certainly isn't itand therefore what is the logical conclusion to your freak outs? Did Trump work with Russia or not?
We don't know to what extent he was working with Russia directly. There was insufficient evidence to say conclusively it constituted collusion. There is evidence they were trying to help him, they were trying to hurt hillary, and that he (Trump) was more than willing for that to happen, even openly encouraging and accepting such help.
And given his attempts to secure help from Ukraine and even China, and his continued attempts to obfuscate or play down the obvious attempts by Russia which are directed at supporting him, my guess is he thinks that help is beneficial. That it helped him win in 2016, and that it may well help him win again in 2020. Otherwise - why seek it out?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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And I’m waiting for the meat Jim. Russia interfered in 2016 and favored Trump, what does that mean? How did they do it? Did they change any votes?Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Questions not a single article answers. Why? Do explain how these are not valid questions to ask.
There your gaslighting. You can’t answer what I asked and you keep proving it, again and again, where’s the meat?I'm not having 'freak outs'. I'm just not responding as you'd like to your rants. Not sure what response you are looking for, but what I'm doing certainly isn't it
Your tin foil hat, is so funny when you try to attack others while wearing it on your head. Let me help you:We don't know to what extent he was working with Russia directly. There was insufficient evidence to say conclusively it constituted collusion. There is evidence they were trying to help him, they were trying to hurt hillary, and that he (Trump) was more than willing for that to happen, even openly encouraging and accepting such help.
TRUMP MADE A JOKE!!!!
Only a moron (aka you) would seriously think that comment was asking for help. Yet, you believe it because it tells you what you want to hear. So what if there is no evidence, the joke was obvious!!!
Keep that tin foil hat on Jim. It just keeps proving that you’re the Jorge of civics, where you see your opponents not as those that might have good reasons to disagree, but as either evil or stupid.
There’s that tin foil hat! You don’t need no stink in’ evidence to support any of these claims, so what if Muller couldn’t find a thing, in nearly 3 years of searching, so what if congress found nothing, and not any evidence supports any of it. Trump is a supervillain, we just need to keep searching till we find evidence that a crime actually happened.And given his attempts to secure help from Ukraine and even China, and his continued attempts to obfuscate or play down the obvious attempts by Russia which are directed at supporting him, my guess is he thinks that help is beneficial. That it helped him win in 2016, and that it may well help him win again in 2020. Otherwise - why seek it out?
Calling me crazy, while saying crazy things and proving me dead right, doesn’t help your case."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; OrthodoxyComment
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Trust me, I am far more informed about these matters than you are which is obvious from the naive way you discuss this topic. I really don't need to play catch up with a list of links you pulled from the first page of a Google search.Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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Well, perhaps you are far more informed, unfortunately it's with mis-information, MM.Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostComment
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I can't tell you the number of times you guys have posted in a lather about some "new" development that you just heard about, and which I was aware of days or even weeks before. The problem with trusting liberal media sources is that they decide what you need to know, and when you need to know it, and in many cases, they decide that you don't actually need to know at all. Stupid and ignorant is how the Democrat party wants you. Like Obamacare architect John Gruber infamously said, "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for [Obamacare] to pass." And they're pulling the same trick again with this impeachment scam, and you guys fall for it every... single... time.Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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Trust you? Trust a man that still thinks the park service faked the inauguration crowd photos?Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
You think you are informed, but so do most cult members. You are cut off from any objective reporting about what is going on, so what you 'know, most of it anyway, is hogwash dreamt up by people that are all-in with whatever Trump wants to hear.
The reality is Trump does all sorts of insane and nutty things, and legitimate sources call him on it, while nutcase sources pretend these are not insane nutty things.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19Comment
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