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  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Given the 1000+ signatures from former prosecutors referencing the evidence presented in the Mueller report, you could start there.

    https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statem...s-8ab7691c2aa1


    Jim
    Evidence that was deemed insufficient by the Department of Justice who has access to additional information that has not been publicly released.

    Next?
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Evidence that was deemed insufficient by the Department of Justice who has access to additional information that has not been publicly released.

      Next?
      MM - our DOJ, specifically Bill Barr, is out spending public money gallivanting around the world investigating conspiracy theories from right wing rags without a trace of evidence and with no other purpose than to try to resurrect ideas that might lend credence to the lies spoken so often by Donald Trump. This does not bode will for the objectivity of their assessments of the Mueller report evidence indicating obstruction. From day 1 Barr has shown a capacity to act against the best interests of the USA and for the best interests of Donald Trump when the two are incompatible.

      OTOH, Those signatures represent professional sources most likely free from any outside influence or obligation. Those signature should then only be suspect if they as a group have shown a track record of partisan action.
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • I should go get the last 30 of your posts to me and post them right here, all in a row posting only substantive text and simply noting the number of words where there is nothing more than personal attacks against me or non-factual rants. And we would see what you actual track record is. I'm not sure there would be more than a paragraph or two left of actual useful, objective, text, but who knows, maybe i'd be surprised.
        Last edited by oxmixmudd; 10-28-2019, 12:03 PM.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          I should go get the last 30 of your posts to me and post them right here, all in a row simply nothing the number of words that are nothing more than personal attacks against me or non-factual rants. And we would see what you actual track record is. I'm not sure there would be more than a paragraph or two left of actual useful, objective, text, but who knows, maybe i'd be surprised.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
            MM - our DOJ, specifically Bill Barr, is out spending public money gallivanting around the world investigating conspiracy theories from right wing rags without a trace of evidence and with no other purpose than to try to resurrect ideas that might lend credence to the lies spoken so often by Donald Trump. This does not bode will for the objectivity of their assessments of the Mueller report evidence indicating obstruction. From day 1 Barr has shown a capacity to act against the best interests of the USA and for the best interests of Donald Trump when the two are incompatible.

            OTOH, Those signatures represent professional sources most likely free from any outside influence or obligation. Those signature should then only be suspect if they as a group have shown a track record of partisan action.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • I don't 'hate' Trump. But I do believe he is both morally and ideologically unqualified for the position, to the point he is dangerous to the country and even to the world.

              The evidence that backs that opinion of his danger to this country is significant. From lawless actions to personal attacks on individual american citizens to irresponsible management of our military, state departement, intelligence and law enforcment agencies, and foreign policy.

              I will provide specifics if you can ever find your way out of personal attack mode and into evidence based discussion.


              Jim
              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • I have accused Barr of supporting the president when he should not, when supporting him is not in the best interests of Justice or the integrity of the rule of Law in the United States. His end run to paint the Mueller report as 'exonerating' the president would be one such example. And his current foray to personally investigate the president's pet conspiracy theories is another - specifically that is was not Russia but Ukraine that tried to influence the 2016 election, and not in favor of himself but in favor of Hillary - something a REPUBLICAN led investigation finds counter factual (i.e. they found that the Russians DID try to influence our 2016 election, and in favor of TRUMP)

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrain...spiracy_theory

                https://www.vox.com/2019/10/8/209051...-2016-election

                Again, you lack specifics in your accusations. You accuse me of listening to conspiracy theories, but don't produce any examples. My example of Barr doing what I said he is doing are listed above. That means you can take them and try to show why they are not as I describe them. There is nothing I can do with your comments as they are generalized accusations with no substance, just negative opinions expressed in derogatory terms.


                Jim
                Last edited by oxmixmudd; 10-28-2019, 02:30 PM.
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  MM - our DOJ, specifically Bill Barr, is out spending public money gallivanting around the world investigating conspiracy theories...
                  That Barr is investigating a conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy theory. Try getting your head out of the fake news bubble and breath the fresh air for a change.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                    MM - our DOJ, specifically Bill Barr, is out spending public money gallivanting around the world investigating conspiracy theories from right wing rags without a trace of evidence and with no other purpose than to try to resurrect ideas that might lend credence to the lies spoken so often by Donald Trump....
                    Jim, look at the language you're using here. You're sounding more like JimL and Tassman with the superfluous adverbs and adjectives and prejudicial verbage. You can do better.

                    Meanwhile, Barr is actually opening a criminal investigation in which anything he finds will have to be put before an actual grand jury - as opposed to Schiff's misleading implication that his investigation is similar to a grand jury.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      And what makes you think Flynn would be immune to coercion if a big enough lever was brought to bear? Remember, he was threatened with the financial ruin of his family, and there is evidence that Mueller's goon squad suggested that Flynn's own son might become a "target" of their investigation if Flynn didn't cooperate. It was a classic shakedown. What innocent man wouldn't plead guilty under those circumstances to protect his family?

                      Let's just put it this way: there's a reason Judge Sullivan is taking a very close look at this case and is giving Sydney Powell all the time she needs to expose the truth.
                      Let's put it this way, Flynn himself said that "you don't plead the fifth unless you're guilty." And you don't make a deal for a lighter sentence if you're innocent either. You may be naive, but Flynn isn't.

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                      • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                        Let's put it this way, Flynn himself said that "you don't plead the fifth unless you're guilty." And you don't make a deal for a lighter sentence if you're innocent either. You may be naive, but Flynn isn't.
                        Let's put it this way: you're clueless.


                        One thing is certain, Sydney Powell is making the prosecution's life miserable.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                          I don't 'hate' Trump. But I do believe he is both morally and ideologically unqualified for the position, to the point he is dangerous to the country and even to the world.
                          The evidence that backs that opinion of his danger to this country is significant. From lawless actions to personal attacks on individual american citizens to irresponsible management of our military, state departement, intelligence and law enforcment agencies, and foreign policy.
                          I will provide specifics if you can ever find your way out of personal attack mode and into evidence based discussion.
                          Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 10-28-2019, 08:54 PM.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Jim, look at the language you're using here. You're sounding more like JimL and Tassman with the superfluous adverbs and adjectives and prejudicial verbage. You can do better.

                            Meanwhile, Barr is actually opening a criminal investigation in which anything he finds will have to be put before an actual grand jury - as opposed to Schiff's misleading implication that his investigation is similar to a grand jury.
                            In many ways, he presents Trump as a movie supervillain and wonders why so few take him seriously.
                            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                            • Nice way to try to reverse reality. I gave you a response with links and specifics. You ignored them.
                              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                                Nice way to try to reverse reality. I gave you a response with links and specifics. You ignored them.
                                Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 10-28-2019, 09:53 PM.
                                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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