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O’Rourke: Churches Should Lose Tax-exempt Status
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, Tea. The question wasn't even about himself, it was a hypothetical. Question: "what would you say to a man who believes marriage is between a man and a woman." Answer: "I'd tell him to marry a woman." In other words, she'd tell him to tend to his own business, marry a woman, and don't worry yourself about how others choose to live their own lives.
Now that, is just silly, Tea. It has nothing to do with moral superiority, it has to do with the individual freedom of each person to live according to their own values and beliefs."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostKey point - "presumably". This demonstrates your profound ignorance of the principle of the priesthood of the believer and the autonomy of the local church.
You don't know squat about what "every Christian" thinks.
You are apparently as profoundly ignorant of what Catholics think, as well. Not all of the march lockstep with the Pope.
And you ignorantly assume that every Catholic buys that.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBecause allowing each person to live according to their own values and beliefs is the morally superior position, right?
It's the “right” of every person to live according to their own values and beliefs provided it is within the confines of accepted community values.Last edited by Tassman; 10-17-2019, 02:48 AM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostIt's the “right” of every person to live according to their own values and beliefs provided it is within the confines of accepted community values.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThis is NOT about church governance...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSo a democrat presidential candidate didn’t say, on a public stage, that he would eliminate the tax exempt status of any church that didn’t perform gay weddings and the audience didn’t cheer at such a statement? So what part of this isn’t true?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBeto O'Rourke is a candidate, lilpix, not a president, and has no authority to do such a thing even if he were president. It would be unconstitutional! Besides that, that's not what the discussion with Warren was about, it had nothing to do with the government, churches or the IRS in particular."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSweety, did you watch the audience reaction to such comments? Were they aghast of such action or excited for such action? Beto is speaking, what most of them already believe Jimmy. Which is Christians need to bend a knee to the outrage mob or else.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPersonally, I hope O'Rourke and his ilk keep beating that drum right up til the election.
“Bend a knee or we’ll destroy you in any way we can.”
The front runners don’t want to say it because unlike Beto, they have a shot."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostBeto is just saying, what they all believe.
“Bend a knee or we’ll destroy you in any way we can.”
The front runners don’t want to say it because unlike Beto, they have a shot.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostRead the rest of it - no, she took a nasty swipe for the base brownie points - still hypocritical as heck.
No, it isn't. Telling someone not to push their beliefs while pushing your own is an assumption of moral superiority - and even more hypocritical.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSweety, did you watch the audience reaction to such comments? Were they aghast of such action or excited for such action? Beto is speaking, what most of them already believe (and I suspect you do too). Which is Christians need to bend a knee to the outrage mob or else.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYea, she took a swipe at him, which she shouldn't have because it was a hypothetical, but so what, that had nothing to do with the point she was making which was that people should mind their own business, live according to their own beliefs and principles, and not to be worrying themselves about how others choose to believe and live their lives.
But only one side is trying to push their beliefs on the other. Gays aren't telling hetero's who they can an can not marry, it's the other way around. Gays aren't running around telling you that if you decide to get married then you can only marry a woman, are they? But you're telling them that they have to live according to your beliefs.
It's not as benign as you make it to be.
(No, Warren didn't actually 'go there', but that's the other side of that coin)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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