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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's more or less correct, similar to how the police can conduct a limited investigation based on public information, but they must secure the approval of the court if they want to issue subpoenas and warrants (at least that's how it works in the US). In the case of a House inquiry, any committee that wishes to do the same must secure the approval of the House with a majority vote. This is why the Trump administration is right to ignore the House's "demand letters" because they are legally worthless even though Democrats are falsely calling them subpoenas.
The thing is, the Democrats have the numerical advantage and could make it all official today if they wanted, so why won't they? What are they afraid of?
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostWrong again. The House, once again, makes its own rules and they have no obligation to secure approval of the House with a majority vote.
Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post...they don't want witnesses to know the testimony of other witnesses before testifying themselves.
Except there are consequences if a witness is caught lying under oath. The real reason the Democrats are so adamant about keeping the proceedings secret is because the evidence is not favorable to their narrative.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWrong again. The House, once again, makes its own rules and they have no obligation to secure approval of the House with a majority vote.
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Hiding behind closed doors only makes this coup attempt all the more blatant."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostRules made without that vote AREN'T binding on the House and therefore aren't House rules. That the minority can't force the issue doesn't make the rules any less Democrat partisanship.
Hiding behind closed doors only makes this coup attempt all the more blatant.
I'm going to continue to say that this is a wrong interpretation for several reasons but can we all agree there's an impending court decision involving this very issue and that will more or less resolve the question?
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View PostI'm going to continue to say that this is a wrong interpretation for several reasons but can we all agree there's an impending court decision involving this very issue and that will more or less resolve the question?
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Wasn't talking to you anyway, Nosy."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostNo. Because you're wrong (seriously, new point and you mistake it for an old one - do you even read this stuff?) and I'm tired of this P/A crap.
Wasn't talking to you anyway, Nosy.
I don't know what P/A stands for, unfortunately.
But, just to be clear: this is one of those opinions formed without legal expertise that can't be wrong, even if a judge rules on the merits?
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostJust poking fun at the tin foil hat gang, MM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI see. I just never took you for one to poke fun at himself.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Good prospect now that the resurgent ISIS/ISIL will erect a golden statue of The Donald, somewhere in Syria or Iran.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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In other news, the Democrats are now saying, "Well... there doesn't actually have to be quid pro quo for us to impeach the President..."
Seems to me that's essentially their way of admitting that they don't have the evidence to support their accusations.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn other news, the Democrats are now saying, "Well... there doesn't actually have to be quid pro quo for us to impeach the President..."
Seems to me that's essentially their way of admitting that they don't have the evidence to support their accusations.
[Some people wrongly think that if it is done publicly, it’s not a crime.]
We see now that the plot to strong-arm Ukraine, is much larger than one phone call.
Before things get too hot, and before the lawmakers see his tax returns, my bet is that Trump will resign, with an immunity granted by Mike Pence.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostDon’t worry; Trump crimed on National TV. I’m sorry you missed it.
[Some people wrongly think that if it is done publicly, it’s not a crime.]
We see now that the plot to strong-arm Ukraine, is much larger than one phone call.
Before things get too hot, and before the lawmakers see his tax returns, my bet is that Trump will resign, with an immunity granted by Mike Pence.This is your brain...
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This is your brain on Rachel Maddow...
broken-egg.jpgSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn other news, the Democrats are now saying, "Well... there doesn't actually have to be quid pro quo for us to impeach the President..."
Seems to me that's essentially their way of admitting that they don't have the evidence to support their accusations.
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