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  • Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      I did not mean to add an "Amen" to your post. My intent was to report you for a false accusation of lying.

      But anyway, the Articles of Impeachment have been publicly released, and neither "quid pro quo" nor "bribery" are ever referenced, but the legally ambiguous term "scheme" is used multiple times.
      They don't need to use the term when they define the action itself.

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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        Yeah and it is entirely based on hearsay. Not a bit of evidence is provided. Just what someone else said that Trump did, and which both Trump and the Ukraine president denied and the transcript of the phone call refutes.

        This is just for show. They know it can't pass the Senate without any evidence.
        For one thing the evidence is not hearsay, and for another the transcript, the redacted transcript, doesn't refute the complaint, it substantiates it.

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          At this point, it's not even a given that it will pass the House.

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            The "Obstruction of Congress" is a crock.

            Congress is only 1/3 of the branches of government. If one co-equal branch (the Executive) appeals to another co-equal branch (The Judiciary) as to whether or not to comply with another branch (the Legislative - and a very partisan sector, at that, and only HALF of the two houses of Congress) it's absolutely nutty to call it "obstruction of Congress".
            Obstructing Congress obliterates the Contitutional authority of congressional responsibility to oversee the criminal activity of a possible Autocrat. Should Trump get away with this obstruction then you can kiss congressional oversight goodby, and as Trump believes he can, any president will be free to do whatever he wants.

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            • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post


              It's like the whole purpose was to see if Pelosi could railroad dozens of members of her party into committing political suicide...
              No Tea, the whole purpose is to comply with their oath to protect and defend the Constitution and democracy from an obvious lawless wannabe dictator which is what we will have if he is not either convicted or voted out of office in 2020.

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              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                What's the actual crime? What's the US code? If you're going to call for the impeachment of the President of the United States, then you better be able to name the actual law that was broken, and have irrefutable evidence that he broke it.
                The actual crime is the very thing that the Founders had in mind, were concerned about, when they wrote it into the Constitution. Foreign interference in our elections and obstruction of Congress.

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                • Originally posted by seer View Post
                  Well they dropped the bribery and extortion thing...
                  No, they didn't, seer.

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                  • Originally posted by seer View Post
                    Well they dropped the bribery and extortion thing...
                    Had to - they couldn't prove any of the elements.

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                    • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                      The actual crime is the very thing that the Founders had in mind, were concerned about, when they wrote it into the Constitution. Foreign interference in our elections and obstruction of Congress.
                      Show me where it says that in the Constitution.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        No, they didn't, seer.
                        Yes they did, Jim.

                        "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          It all started falling apart when Trump released the transcript of the call -- something they were sure he would never do.
                          Only in the minds of the blind.

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                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            The actual crime is the very thing that the Founders had in mind, were concerned about, when they wrote it into the Constitution. Foreign interference in our elections and obstruction of Congress.
                            You do remember that 'checks and balances' bit, right? Obstruction of congress is part of the executive and judicial job descriptions.

                            "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


                            "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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                            • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                              You do remember that 'checks and balances' bit, right? Obstruction of congress is part of the executive and judicial job descriptions.
                              It is not the job of the executive to obstruct a congressional investigation into the executive, Tea.

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                              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                No Tea, the whole purpose is to comply with their oath to protect and defend the Constitution and democracy from an obvious lawless wannabe dictator which is what we will have if he is not either convicted or voted out of office in 2020.
                                The Dems could manage that by resigning their corrupt backsides.

                                "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


                                "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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