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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, he knows the situation, i.e. that the charges against Biden are Trumps fake news, but he is going to do Trumps bidding anyway and for solely political reasons stab the man in the back that he once defined as the nicest man god ever created, or words to that effect. Typical Republican.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThat makes no sense. Graham has never been a fan of Trump. There's no reason whatsoever for him to do this, unless he knows what we know -- that Shokin was fired because of Biden a month before he ordered his office to seize Zlochevsky's assets and that the claim he was lax in the investigation is a lie, thus Biden did exactly what Trump is accused of doing. Only instead of the retarded accusation that Trump was looking for dirt on Biden because he was somehow threatened by a man whose cognitive function is clearly feeble (and would have in no way kept up in a heated debate like Hillary did), Biden did it to cover his son's behind.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostActually the evidence is to the contrary, Burisma wasn't even under investigation at the time Biden was there, and Biden, once again, was not in Ukraine on his own business, he was there doing Obama's business, and only Obama can withhold aid. But Trump wasn't necessarily looking for dirt on Biden anyway, because he too knows there was no dirt to be found, he just wanted Zelensky to publicly announce on CNN that he was investigating Biden so he could use that lie to slander Biden with during the campaign.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostActually the evidence is to the contrary, Burisma wasn't even under investigation at the time Biden was there...
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou mean the White House?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou are greatly misinformed. Shokin was actively and aggressively investigating Burisma, and Hunter and has associates appealed to the Obama administration to get the heat off. Shortly after, Joe showed up and extorted the Ukraine government into firing Shokin, which he has openly boasted about in front of TV cameras.
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/
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Originally posted by seanD View PostBiden is on public record admitting he threatened to withhold the money, so I don't even know what you're on about in that regard. Whether he had the power to do it or not, apparently it worked. And that Shokin was lax with the investigation is what the Obama admin and their allies in the EU were arguing about Shokin. Yet this would be a natural cover for an excuse to have him ousted, wouldn't it? Two sides say two different things, and it's a matter of he said/she said, until we get to 2016. Fact of the matter is, Shokin ordered his department to seize Zlochevsky's assets on Feb 2016, which clearly shows he was getting aggressive, one month before he was fired. This justifies an investigation of quid pro quo on Biden's part, let alone just the conflict of interest with his crackhead son Hunter, thus justifies Trump's phone call. The fact we all know Ukraine had a shady and corrupt history also justifies the phone call. The theory you're now arguing that Trump actually "knew" Biden was innocent yet risked all this anyway just to get it in the paper is too hilarious for words. If there's even a sliver of me taking you serious, that's very quickly slipping away.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostJohn Solomon, though he pretends to be, he isn't a journalist, he's nothing more than a propagandist shill for the republican party. So if Solomon is your source then you are greatly misinformed, a fact which you demonstrate to be true time and time again.
But since you are claiming otherwise, go ahead and show what Mr. Solomon got wrong and the facts to prove it.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou are greatly misinformed. Shokin was actively and aggressively investigating Burisma, and Hunter and has associates appealed to the Obama administration to get the heat off. Shortly after, Joe showed up and extorted the Ukraine government into firing Shokin, which he has openly boasted about in front of TV cameras.
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostGarbage, most likely Russian disinformation.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI'll tell you the same thing I told Jimmy: If you could trouble yourself to actually show which parts of Mr. Solomon's report are in error then we might have something to talk about it.
All I am saying is that you are promoting Russian disinformation. Your own Republican Senators have told you as much. It’s not my job to educate you. The facts are freely available.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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It is about time that Republicans took the danger seriously.
Europe Ukraine’s Zelensky is making headway against corruption. But the fight risks angering Trump.
A placard in February depicts then-presidential candidate Volodymyr Zelensky and oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, looking out from behind Zelensky, and reads “Servant of Oligarch.”
By the end of this month, more than 500 Ukrainian prosecutors will be out of their jobs as part of sweeping professional reviews under Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Among the prosecutors heading for the exit: a key Kyiv contact for Rudolph W. Giuliani.
The prosecutor purge is just one of several corruption-busting efforts set in motion by Zelensky. But it puts into sharp relief Zelensky’s twin challenges — trying to balance his clean-government promises at home with his needs to keep President Trump from turning against him.Last edited by firstfloor; 12-01-2019, 03:43 PM.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIt’s all in error, and it’s not worth discussing.
All I am saying is that you are promoting Russian disinformation. Your own Republican Senators have told you as much. It’s not my job to educate you. The facts are freely available.
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