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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    McConnell has said that if this thing goes to trial in the Senate that no hearsay evidence and no anonymous testimony will be allowed
    So is McConnell going to require that the first-hand witnesses testify? Or is he going to support Trump's obstruction of justice by allowing Trump to prohibit all first hand witnesses from testifying?

    My guess is that the Republican crime party will protect its own.

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    • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
      Dude, this thing is so bad for the Dems that I'm not even sure they going ahead with articles. This crap can't stand up to basic courtroom standards - McConnell doesn't need anything more than that.
      You can't be watching the hearings, Tea, if you are, then your bias is obviously obscuring your veiw.

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      • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        So is McConnell going to require that the first-hand witnesses testify? Or is he going to support Trump's obstruction of justice by allowing Trump to prohibit all first hand witnesses from testifying?

        My guess is that the Republican crime party will protect its own.
        What's the odds that if he subpoenaed them that he'd also fold like a lawn chair as Schiff did (quickly dropping the subpoena) when one of them asked a federal judge to decide between claims of Executive Privilege and Congressional subpoenas?

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        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
          You can't be watching the hearings, Tea, if you are, then your bias is obviously obscuring your veiw.
          oh the irony you learned well from Saul Alinsky falsley accusing Teallaura of what you are guilty of.

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            You can't be watching the hearings, Tea, if you are, then your bias is obviously obscuring your veiw.
            No one is watching the hearings - insomniacs can't stay awake through that!

            They literally called a witness who testified for hours but had absolutely no material evidence to offer. Stupid and boring...



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            • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
              No one is watching the hearings - insomniacs can't stay awake through that!
              I've watched all of them. 2x or 2.5x speed makes it very watchable.

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              • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                No one is watching the hearings - insomniacs can't stay awake through that!

                They literally called a witness who testified for hours but had absolutely no material evidence to offer. Stupid and boring...


                !3 million people, not including those watching on line, watched the hearings, Tea. And you know what all these witnesses are testifying to, ya'll might be fooling yourselves, but theres no escaping the truth.

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                • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  No one is watching the hearings - insomniacs can't stay awake through that!

                  They literally called a witness who testified for hours but had absolutely no material evidence to offer. Stupid and boring...


                  I've heard various comparisons to the Kavanaugh, Mueller, Comey appearances before Congress.

                  Let's put it this way it looks like more people watched Michael Cohen testify than this. It's the boy who cried wolf effect for one thing.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    !3 million people, not including those watching on line, watched the hearings, Tea. And you know what all these witnesses are testifying to, ya'll might be fooling yourselves, but theres no escaping the truth.
                    Yeah, that so far you have two witnesses offering hearsay and one offering nothing at all.

                    I'm gonna go watch paint dry....

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                    • Fox appears to be shouting "Squirrel!" as much as they can...

                      They decided a crucial topic was the size of a witness's water bottle. (video in link)

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                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        !3 million people, not including those watching on line, watched the hearings, Tea. And you know what all these witnesses are testifying to, ya'll might be fooling yourselves, but theres no escaping the truth.
                        smiley yawn.gif How many?

                        And you're talking about how many people during its six and a half hours may have tuned in for a few minutes, not how many actually watched a sizeable portion of it.

                        Oh, and Comey had 19.5 million in 2017. 20.4 million for Kavanaugh on September 27 last year.

                        ETA: And Cohen had 15.8 million earlier this year
                        Last edited by rogue06; 11-15-2019, 07:17 PM.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

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                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          What's the odds that if he subpoenaed them that he'd also fold like a lawn chair as Schiff did (quickly dropping the subpoena) when one of them asked a federal judge to decide between claims of Executive Privilege and Congressional subpoenas?
                          Schiff dropped the subpoena in order to proceed speedily without having to wait for the delaying tactics of a court-hearing. But no one can complain about the lack of first-hand witnesses to testify given that they are being prevented from doing so. Moreover, its not as though there are insufficient witnesses.
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                          • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            Schiff dropped the subpoena in order to proceed speedily without having to wait for the delaying tactics of a court-hearing. But no one can complain about the lack of first-hand witnesses to testify given that they are being prevented from doing so. Moreover, its not as though there are insufficient witnesses.
                            You aren't going to get them to testify faster by dropping the subpoena. The fact is that the authority of the subpoenas was questionable considering how Schiff implemented them and he knew that the courts were likely to side with the president on this. Especially given that it was Kupperman that filed the suit rather than the Democrats carefully judge shopping to get a favorable judge for the initial ruling.

                            As a result, all of a sudden, Schiff and his gang (who had been darkly threatening him that he better testify or at the very least he'll be cited for contempt and who had been telling the media how instrumental his testimony is) dropped the subpoena like a hot potato. They knew that their bluff had failed miserably (pretty much like their whole inquiry is doing).

                            They're aware that if a judge rules in favor of the president in this that it will then be impossible for them to charge Trump on contempt of Congress.

                            But then you also cannot be obstructing subpoenas that were withdrawn so either way this looks like a dead issue.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              You can't be watching the hearings, Tea, if you are, then your bias is obviously obscuring your veiw.
                              Jim I watched all of the first day, the first two witnesses had no first hand knowledge of wrongdoing by Trump, and neither did this last witness. So where is the crime?
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                              • Originally posted by seer View Post
                                Jim I watched all of the first day, the first two witnesses had no first hand knowledge of wrongdoing by Trump, and neither did this last witness. So where is the crime?
                                But were you squinting just so and holding your jaw at the correct angle?

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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