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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo answer me this: You guys have been whooping and hollering for weeks now about how damning the House testimony has been, that it leaves no question of Trump's guilt, that the preponderance of evidence is overwhelming, and Democrats apparently thought they had a compelling enough case to pass a vote to impeach.
So if the case is really that strong, then why the need for additional evidence? And if the Democrats need Bolton's testimony to make their case then why didn't they fight it out in court to compel him to testify during the inquiry?
Your argument is really an implicit admission that the articles, as they stand right now, lack sufficient evidence to support the accusations against the President, and as Mitch McConnell correctly stated, it's not the Senate's job to help the House make its case, so the proper thing to do is dismiss the articles and tell the House, "Try to get it right next time."
The Democrats have consistently proclaimed that they have more than enough already to impeach Trump but their constant whining demands that the Senate continue their investigation is tacit admission that they don't.
The fact is that they should have continued their own investigation instead of trying to extort the Senate into doing their job for them but simply couldn't be bothered to do so. The claim that they couldn't wait has been exposed by Pelosi's weeks long stall as utter B.S. And now their claim that they had more than enough already on Trump is likewise being exposed as just another lie.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo answer me this: You guys have been whooping and hollering for weeks now about how damning the House testimony has been, that it leaves no question of Trump's guilt, that the preponderance of evidence is overwhelming, and Democrats apparently thought they had a compelling enough case to pass a vote to impeach.
So if the case is really that strong, then why the need for additional evidence? And if the Democrats need Bolton's testimony to make their case then why didn't they fight it out in court to compel him to testify during the inquiry?
Your argument is really an implicit admission that the articles, as they stand right now, lack sufficient evidence to support the accusations against the President, and as Mitch McConnell correctly stated, it's not the Senate's job to help the House make its case, so the proper thing to do is dismiss the articles and tell the House, "Try to get it right next time."
Anyone wanting to know the truth would want to see and to hear all the relevant evidence, not make excuses for it to not be admissable. You and the rest of those defending Trump obviously don't want to see it, and the reason for that is glaringly obvious.Last edited by JimL; 01-11-2020, 03:32 PM.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostNo it isn't. If Moscow Mitch and the republicans intend on putting on a sham trial, nothing democrats say is going to change that. Republicans as well as Democrats already know that direct and relevant evidence and testimony has been blocked by the White House. If they don't want to see it, if they don't want you to see it, then it's a cover-up pure and simple. So, why don't you want to see it, MM?
So if the case is really that strong, then why the need for additional evidence? And if the Democrats need Bolton's testimony to make their case then why didn't they fight it out in court to compel him to testify during the inquiry?
Your argument is really an implicit admission that the articles, as they stand right now, lack sufficient evidence to support the accusations against the President, and as Mitch McConnell correctly stated, it's not the Senate's job to help the House make its case, so the proper thing to do is dismiss the articles and tell the House, "Try to get it right next time."
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThen it's on the Democrat's to present a compelling enough opening argument to convince a majority of Senators that the presentation of additional witnesses and evidence is warranted. You think they're up to it?
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThere is no sham involved here MM. Trump abused his power and tried to enlist a foreign government's help in undermining a political opponent's campaign. That is as valid a reason as any to impeach a president. And the senate refusing to conduct a real trial, and especially not to allow a person that likely can clear the air once and for all as to exactly what Trump was up to says it all. The Senate and the president have conspired to, as much as is possible, hide any information that would require Trump be removed from office. They have conspired to keep a man unfit for office in the white house when his actions rightfully required his removal.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostAt least you admit to knowing that the republicans intent is a sham trial. Have you on record for that, MM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA sham trial for a sham investigation.
Sounds fair!Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-11-2020, 01:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostInteresting that you accept the Senate leader’s stated determination not to run a fair trial.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostWell, if they dismiss the impeachment, or put on a sham trial...
Sounds fair!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhen the Senate dismisses the impeachment Jimmy will claim that they did that on purpose so they can add more charges later and impeach him for it all at once.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhen the Senate dismisses the impeachment Jimmy will claim that they did that on purpose so they can add more charges later and impeach him for it all at once.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt appears to have had an effect http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...-Pelosi-Blinks
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