Take This Impeachment And Shove It...

[Teallaura]

Pelosi is creating time for thinking Americans to recognise that Moscow Mitch and the republican Senate are working with the President in order to cover-up his crimes with a sham trial. In the mean time more and more evidence is emerging which the Senate will have to deal with one way or the other.

Pelosi is hoping for a miracle and floundering around in the meantime.

[rogue06]

Yeah, realistically, there's some fighting going on in their backroom. Pelosi managed to quell the first brush fires, but Dems are feeling the heat at home and eventually, they're gonna want the fire put out.

It appears to have had an effect http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...-Pelosi-Blinks

[Sparko]

When the Senate dismisses the impeachment Jimmy will claim that they did that on purpose so they can add more charges later and impeach him for it all at once.

[Teallaura]

I'll accept that, by some reasoning which makes sense to you, I was calling your source into question. In another thread you said I needed to ask for clarification rather than make biased assumptions. Here you did not ask for clarification but I provided it nonetheless. Do you now see that I was not intending to dispute what your source said or the accuracy of their reporting? If you're going to continue to impugn my motives over my explicit words then I don't see how productive dialog will be possible.

Do I need you to clarify your every intent? Maybe you don't realize the accusation of 'misquoting' can only be either a mistake - which would be easy to get corrected - or an outright lie. It's a serious accusation and I don't see why you are so surprised that I wanted to know whether it was an error or a lie. Or that I assumed the obvious - that the quote was being challenged by you.

And the invitation to 'make of it what you will' certainly is open ended enough to safely assume anything.

Rogue provided a link to Feinstein walking it back properly - so maybe her staffer was just an idiot. It's still a serious allegation - don't make it or post it if you aren't prepared to defend it.

And maybe talk to a different staffer if there's ever a next time...

[Teallaura]

I suspect that she probably wished that she had conveyed her dissatisfaction privately rather than publicly.

Yeppers - bingo.

[Teallaura]

It appears to have had an effect http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...-Pelosi-Blinks

Yep - I expected that after all the flak she's taken from all sides this week.

[Tassman]

When the Senate dismisses the impeachment Jimmy will claim that they did that on purpose so they can add more charges later and impeach him for it all at once.

Interesting that you accept the Senate leader’s stated determination not to run a fair trial.

[JimL]

When the Senate dismisses the impeachment Jimmy will claim that they did that on purpose so they can add more charges later and impeach him for it all at once.

Well, if they dismiss the impeachment, or put on a sham trial as Moscow Mitch affirmed to be his intention, if they purposely block direct testimoney and relative documentary evidence, then of course I'll say they did it on purpose. That's not rocket science, Sparko, even you know that, though you'll never admit to it.

[Mountain Man]

Well, if they dismiss the impeachment, or put on a sham trial...

A sham trial for a sham investigation.

Sounds fair!

[JimL]

Interesting that you accept the Senate leader’s stated determination not to run a fair trial.

They don't want a fair trial, they're all breathing a sigh of relief after hearing that Moscow Mitch intended to sweep it under the rug. Winning is more important to them than truth, than the Constitution, or their democratic form of government, and the more they're lied to, the more the facts are covered up, the better they seem to like it.

[JimL]

A sham trial for a sham investigation.

Sounds fair!

At least you admit to knowing that the republicans intent is a sham trial. Have you on record for that, MM.

[oxmixmudd]

A sham trial for a sham investigation.

Sounds fair!

There is no sham involved here MM. Trump abused his power and tried to enlist a foreign government's help in undermining a political opponent's campaign. That is as valid a reason as any to impeach a president. And the senate refusing to conduct a real trial, and especially not to allow a person that likely can clear the air once and for all as to exactly what Trump was up to says it all. The Senate and the president have conspired to, as much as is possible, hide any information that would require Trump be removed from office. They have conspired to keep a man unfit for office in the white house when his actions rightfully required his removal.

[Mountain Man]

At least you admit to knowing that the republicans intent is a sham trial. Have you on record for that, MM.

Your sarcasm detector is in need of servicing.

[Mountain Man]

There is no sham involved here MM. Trump abused his power and tried to enlist a foreign government's help in undermining a political opponent's campaign. That is as valid a reason as any to impeach a president. And the senate refusing to conduct a real trial, and especially not to allow a person that likely can clear the air once and for all as to exactly what Trump was up to says it all. The Senate and the president have conspired to, as much as is possible, hide any information that would require Trump be removed from office. They have conspired to keep a man unfit for office in the white house when his actions rightfully required his removal.

Then it's on the Democrat's to present a compelling enough opening argument to convince a majority of Senators that the presentation of additional witnesses and evidence is warranted. You think they're up to it?

[JimL]

Your sarcasm detector is in need of servicing.

Sorry MM, you gave yourself away.