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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    The most significant portion of his votes come from uninformed, misinformed, easily led, members of the tribe.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
      The most significant portion of his votes come from uninformed, misinformed, easily led, members of the tribe.
      That sounds like you're describing the popular vote.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        So compelling that, the more the American people heard what they had to say, the less enthusiastic they were to support impeachment.
        The country has remained at roughly 50% either way throughout – far more than supported the Clinton Impeachment. As for “the American people” hearing more, all Trump has to do is allow Mitch McConnell to call Bolton and Mulvaney to testify. After all, What’s Trump got to hide?
        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          The country has remained at roughly 50% either way throughout
          impeach.jpg

          – far more than supported the Clinton Impeachment.
          And?

          As for “the American people” hearing more, all Trump has to do is allow Mitch McConnell to call Bolton and Mulvaney to testify. After all, What’s Trump got to hide?
          Pelosi, Nadler and Schiff are doing Trump's work for him, Tass.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • As I said, not much difference between the two. As opposed to Clinton’s approval ratings which remained high throughout his impeachment process

            Pelosi, Nadler and Schiff are doing Trump's work for him, Tass.
            No. McConnell and Graham are "doing Trump's work for him" to ensure that the trial against Trump will be biased and NOT impartial, despite the oath they will have to swear. They've publicly said so.
            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              As I said, not much difference between the two.
              Except, of course, that the more the partisan Democrats push their impeachment agenda, the higher the opposition goes, and the lower the support goes. It's about trends, Tass.

              As opposed to Clinton’s approval ratings which remained high throughout his impeachment process
              Perhaps you need to embiggen the graph I posted - it has nothing to do with Trump's approval ratings. But it's interesting to note that Trump's approval has ALSO improved the more the Democrat hacks push impeachment.

              No. McConnell and Graham are "doing Trump's work for him" to ensure that the trial against Trump will be biased and NOT impartial, despite the oath they will have to swear. They've publicly said so.
              Sure, Tass, comfort yourself with that, but the opposition to impeachment was already growing, thanks to Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler.

              They were absolutely convinced that their impeachment sham would push support so high that the Republicans in the Senate would have no choice but to convict and remove.

              Ain't happenin' buddy.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                As opposed to Clinton’s approval ratings which remained high throughout his impeachment process...
                Gallup....


                Pelosi/Nadler/Schiff have actually IMPROVED Trump's rating....

                trump approval.jpg

                Be sure to click on it so you can read it, and take note that Trump's HIGHEST approval rate was 46, his average was 40, but NOW it's back up to 45.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post



                  Sure, Tass, comfort yourself with that,
                  Comforting that those who will conduct the trial have already decided the outcome. Seriously? They have publicly stated they will literally violate their oath of impartiality.

                  https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mccon...rnment-1477368

                  but the opposition to impeachment was already growing, thanks to Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler.
                  Not by much.

                  They were absolutely convinced that their impeachment sham would push support so high that the Republicans in the Senate would have no choice but to convict and remove.
                  You think that do you? I think Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler were perfectly aware that Trump’s White Evangelical base would stay with him no matter what. So, it has proved.

                  Although, a top evangelical magazine has called for Trump’s removal: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...removal-088362
                  Last edited by Tassman; 12-20-2019, 01:25 AM.
                  “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                  • Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
                    It looks like the democrats did well here. Instead of going to court to compel the witnesses, they just hit Trump with an obstruction of congress which is a crime according to s 1505

                    https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim

                    Trump can seek a ruling but until then it’s obstruction.
                    Not unless 67 or more Senators say it is. And that's not going to happen.
                    Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                    Beige Federalist.

                    Nationalist Christian.

                    "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                    Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                    Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                    Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                    Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                    Justice for Matthew Perna!

                    Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Should, but doesn't.
                      It might if Cocaine Mitch decides it does.

                      Saul Guy-Whose-Last-Name-I-Forget (on Laura's show) and The Great One (on Facebook and probably Twitter) both said similar things: If the Dems don't fork it over promptly, Mitch should just summarily toss it.
                      Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                      Beige Federalist.

                      Nationalist Christian.

                      "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                      Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                      Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                      Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                      Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                      Justice for Matthew Perna!

                      Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        The problem of course all presidents have the right to Executive Privilege (it is explicitly spelled out in the Constitution) ...
                        Can you give a citation for this? I have never been able to find either "Executive Privilege" or Congressional "oversight" explicitly stated in the Constitution.

                        Umm... In light of the subsequent several posts -- Never mind.
                        Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                        Beige Federalist.

                        Nationalist Christian.

                        "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                        Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                        Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                        Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                        Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                        Justice for Matthew Perna!

                        Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                        • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                          You're a clown. You're not thinking logically. Wealthy folks are going to wait for the storm of impeachment to end to see the final outcome before they risk the "money they worship." Not only are they unsure of the political outcome, they're unsure how this will effect voters' sentiments about Trump as a result. Smaller donors from Trump's base, who are whipped up in a frenzy of support because of impeachment, are going to be willing to risk smaller donations because they believe the POTUS that they support will survive impeachment because they believe it's an unjust witch-hunt.
                          As of October, NPR's stats indicate small-dollar donors are NOT the base of Trump's support. As of November, Roll Call seems to agree, albeit without the nice charts and graphs.
                          Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                          Beige Federalist.

                          Nationalist Christian.

                          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                          Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                          Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                          Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                          Justice for Matthew Perna!

                          Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Gallup....


                            Pelosi/Nadler/Schiff have actually IMPROVED Trump's rating....

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]41532[/ATTACH]

                            Be sure to click on it so you can read it, and take note that Trump's HIGHEST approval rate was 46, his average was 40, but NOW it's back up to 45.
                            All the polls are showing that either support for Trump has grown or at best (for the loony left) that it has remained unchanged after they gave him their best shot and even with the help of an acquiescent MSM.

                            This could not have been what they had figured would happen.

                            Just so they can put an asterisk by his name they have significantly increased his chances of being re-elected. I hope they think it was worth it.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

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                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              Comforting that those who will conduct the trial have already decided the outcome. Seriously? They have publicly stated they will literally violate their oath of impartiality.
                              Was this a problem for you when the Democrats had decided the outcome of their part of the impeachment even before he took office? You certainly didn't express any misgivings. At least the Republicans have heard the evidence (weeks of televised hearings) before making a decision.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • firstfloor is with the evangelicals for once:
                                The evangelical magazine founded by the late evangelist the Rev. Billy Graham published a surprising editorial by its editor in chief on Thursday calling for President Trump’s removal. The magazine has been critical of Trump but not politically outspoken during his administration.
The piece, which appeared to draw so many readers that the magazine’s website crashed briefly, was written by Mark Galli, who called Trump “a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.”
                                WaPo
                                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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