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Originally posted by JimL View PostCP, you believe Trump when he said he withheld the aid because he was concerned about corruption. I showed you that he is lying to you.
Your refusal to actually answer to that shows who is in the bubble. Facts don't have any effect on you.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThere's no obligation to comply with unlawful demands - and the burden would not be on the accused in a congressional matter unless or until Congress sought enforcement.
And, no, it's not. You (general) can commit obstruction of justice in relation to a congressional committee's LAWFUL actions - but there is no such crime as obstruction of congress.
In a House full of lawyers, this is damning. They wouldn't have accidentally said 'congress' meaning 'justice' - so, why the wording? Most reasonable conclusion is that they KNEW the could not prove the elements of obstruction of justice.
I’m not talking about what’s allowed or not allowed in court but what they did out of court.
Congress has sent multiple subpoenas to Trump which were ignored. Attempts to enforce through courts have taken much time and Trump appeals all the losses and nothing has been resolved.
Pelosi then took the control out of the courts and instead of trying to enforce other subpoenas the tactic became to use the non compliance as evidence of obstruction. They drop any new court actions and start publicly claiming obstruction and pointing out all the ignored subpoenas.
Republicans are in a position where they have to defend the president by claiming unfairness and illegitimacy of the proceedings but they can’t deny the democrats from using the obstruction evidence for one of the articles of impeachment unless they take it to court and hope for an unlikely win.
I think my initial comment was just saying this was a good move.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI'm sure they get some small donors who are to ignorant to understand that Trump couldn't care less about them but the larger portion of there money is coming from wealthy donors who understand that hedging their bets aren't going to help them this go round.
Not 'some' - a significant proportion.
He's not actively running compared to the Democrats entire field yet he's blowing them all out of the water in fundraising. That's not 'just the base' or 'party loyalists' - there are a LOT of the American people supporting Trump with their wallets.
2020 is gonna be a looooooooooooooooooong year for the Dems."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostYou guys are thinking about it in the wrong setting. Let’s say it was an unlawful demand so you ignored it. Because of that they claim obstruction and use it as evidence in articles of Impeachment. The only way to stop them is to take them to court meaning the burden is on you.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostYou guys are thinking about it in the wrong setting. Let’s say it was an unlawful demand so you ignored it. Because of that they claim obstruction and use it as evidence in articles of Impeachment. The only way to stop them is to take them to court meaning the burden is on you.
I’m not talking about what’s allowed or not allowed in court but what they did out of court.
Congress has sent multiple subpoenas to Trump which were ignored. Attempts to enforce through courts have taken much time and Trump appeals all the losses and nothing has been resolved.
Pelosi then took the control out of the courts and instead of trying to enforce other subpoenas the tactic became to use the non compliance as evidence of obstruction. They drop any new court actions and start publicly claiming obstruction and pointing out all the ignored subpoenas.
Republicans are in a position where they have to defend the president by claiming unfairness and illegitimacy of the proceedings but they can’t deny the democrats from using the obstruction evidence for one of the articles of impeachment unless they take it to court and hope for an unlikely win.
I think my initial comment was just saying this was a good move."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)
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Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
Not 'some' - a significant proportion.
He's not actively running compared to the Democrats entire field yet he's blowing them all out of the water in fundraising. That's not 'just the base' or 'party loyalists' - there are a LOT of the American people supporting Trump with their wallets.
2020 is gonna be a looooooooooooooooooong year for the Dems.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostShe was trying so hard not to laugh at the cheering.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostTo me, that looks more like Mad Mom face.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe most significant portion of his donations come from big money donors.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post... The Democrats have shot themselves in the foot with Javelin missiles.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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