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"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostWhy? Emotions are just things that exist that can produce both good things and bad things. It is just as easy to use love to perform evil deeds as any other emotion.
And some are not, you just want to manipulate people’s emotions to excuse away people breaking our laws and you excuse it away with, “Well their escaping things!” We have had and do have members here that are from Latin America Jim. It isn’t just filled with destruction as far as the eye can see, it has middle class families living there too. You can’t help everyone, you don’t like how your homeland is ran, try to fix your homeland.
I don't have to ignore our laws to be against how people, how this administration, is using them against innocent and downtrodden peoples. There are other ways than the abusive measures Trump has taken. How about at least making it possible for those that are in fact fleeing dangerous and abusive situations to get their day in court seeking asylum and be safe from those that would kill them while they are waiting?
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Love demands we work around the deficiencies of our laws to help as many as we can, changing them where necessary. That we recognize and accept responsibility for how we have helped create the situations these people are fleeing.
Hate demands we abuse those same people with every possible harmful implication of our existing laws, that we deal destructively with the situation by making new and even less compassionate laws, ignoring our own responsibility in creating the situation at the border.
And you still avoid my major point, the Democrats don’t care, they want them sent to red cities, districts, and states to turn them blue.
Nevertheless - assuming you are correct - that justifies the evil Trump is doing? It doesn't work that way Pix. I don't have to support one one form of evil just because I reject some other form of evil. I can be against wide open borders AT THE SAME TIME I am against Trumps abuse of immigrants.
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I hope you are noting that I have not leveled any accusations of evil or evil motives against you in these posts. Perhaps you could try again to speak to the ideas rather than assumed motivations that are likely not true.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-12-2019, 11:36 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd yet, God is described as hating those that engage in evil. Ever read about the liberation of the death camps and the things found within? General Patton refused to visit some parts of liberated camps and he wasn’t known to be emotional and had witnessed more than his fair share of gore. I have to say, I can’t find much fault in the first allied solders that liberated these camps for their reaction.
Consider the story of Corrie Ten Boom. Consider the words of Christ I quoted, or 'Never return evil for evil, but instead ...'. When we hate people, we participate with evil. We are called NOT to be like the world. We are called not to hate those who hate, but to love them and if possible bring them to repentance. It is not an easy thing to do. But there is a big difference between recognizing our incapacity to avoid hatred in some circumstance and saying that it is justifiable to hate people.
If we hate people, we are participating in evil, if for no other reason than we have been commanded by God NOT to hate other people.
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And you’re wrong. Enjoy being a serf.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 10-12-2019, 11:51 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe reason you can't understand what I see in Trump is your own hatred...
And I bet that you don't realize that your list of "FACTUAL, DOCUMENTABLE actions" is nothing more than your own subjective commentary of what you don't like about the President. For instance, you accuse him of engaging in "a concerted effort to silence" the free press, but all he's done is criticize them and point out the media's left-wing bias that conservatives have been talking about for years. As far as I know, Trump, unlike Obama, has never used the power of the government to go after reporters who displeased him, tapping their phones or calling on the IRS to put pressure on them, or had them thrown in jail for refusing to divulge their sources, or banned an entire television news network from attending White House press briefings. If anything, Trump is the most transparent, accessible president in a very long time. He regularly holds cabinet meetings with the press in attendance, and he has almost daily impromptu press briefings on his way to and from various destinations where he willingly addresses any question put to him.
The fact is, you are entirely incapable of being fair, reasonable, and objective when it comes to anything to do with Trump.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJust as she's matching Biden's poll numbers, she comes up with more reasons to challenge her truthfulness....
Report disputes Elizabeth Warren’s claim she was let go from teaching job over pregnancy
And, yeah, I know, Trump lies.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostYou're accusing her of doing something Trump has actually done thousands of more times. So what's your point?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhite squaw speaks with forked tongue.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIs this the point where one of the s can scream "WHATABOUTISM"? What's your point?
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostThere's only one person reverting to the default "troll accusation" and all caps screaming. When you've gotten you're little undies unwadded again, what's your point?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostIs there any evidence that she actually lied about her ethnicity?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNope. I don't actually feel or express hatred, but this has become your "go to" for anybody who disagrees with you.
And I bet that you don't realize that your list of "FACTUAL, DOCUMENTABLE actions" is nothing more than your own subjective commentary of what you don't like about the President. For instance, you accuse him of engaging in "a concerted effort to silence" the free press, but all he's done is criticize them and point out the media's left-wing bias that conservatives have been talking about for years. As far as I know, Trump, unlike Obama, has never used the power of the government to go after reporters who displeased him, tapping their phones or calling on the IRS to put pressure on them, or had them thrown in jail for refusing to divulge their sources, or banned an entire television news network from attending White House press briefings. If anything, Trump is the most transparent, accessible president in a very long time. He regularly holds cabinet meetings with the press in attendance, and he has almost daily impromptu press briefings on his way to and from various destinations where he willingly addresses any question put to him.
The fact is, you are entirely incapable of being fair, reasonable, and objective when it comes to anything to do with Trump.
The moral compromises you are willing to accept on behalf of this man are just very difficult to comprehend.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNot true mm. The word was used several times in this thread to dismiss my views on Trump. but what I see in you, pix, and many others is very real hatred of liberal ideas and the MSM that is so strong and so deep that you are willing to excuse much worse in trump because through him you have the opportunity to push back against those same things.
What you dont realize mm is that you excuse and make excuses for Trump no matter how low he goes, no matter what laws he breaks, no matter who or what is harmed by his actions.
The moral compromises you are willing to accept on behalf of this man are just very difficult to comprehend.
JimSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHoly smoke, MM, you must have been looking in a mirror while typing that.
(several times, people would approach me asking for BBQ, thinking it was "Holy Smoke BBQ". )The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMany years ago, I owned a Chimney Sweep Company called "Holy Smoke Chimney Sweeps".
(several times, people would approach me asking for BBQ, thinking it was "Holy Smoke BBQ". )
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