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  • Zymologist
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    Originally posted by Sam View Post
    Not if you lie a nation into a war and reintroduce torture, no. I suspect we wouldn't make good neighbors.
    Leaving out Bush as an extreme example (him being a former president), would or could you be friends with right-wingers in general?

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Sam View Post
    That is not what I wrote.

    I do believe that the damage someone causes elsewhere should impact decisions of friendship, however. I've dropped friends I discovered were abusive or discriminatory to others, for example. In part because my association with such people harmed others who are themselves victims of abuse or discrimination.

    George Bush did enormous damage, domestically and internationally. And he did it intentionally and for political gain. People are responsible for their actions and decisions about association are part of being held accountable.

    --Sam
    When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?"

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
    So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
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  • Sam
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    Originally posted by seer View Post
    That doesn't change anything she said. You just prove my point though - there is no living with leftists...

    Not if you lie a nation into a war and reintroduce torture, no. I suspect we wouldn't make good neighbors.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
    So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
    Sam has the extraordinary gift of seeing darkness where others see a beautiful sunrise.

    By the way --- the sunrise at my house this morning...

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    (Sorry about the slightly "off level" - I'm on drugs due to my knee)

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by Sam View Post
    In order to win re-election in 2004, George Bush and the RNC worked to include a marriage amendment that banned same-sex marriage on the ballots of battleground states. If Bush had gotten his way, not only would DeGeneres be prohibited from marrying her partner, millions of LGBT+ Americans who see her as a rights leader would be prohibited from marriage.

    He also reintroduced torture to American military strategy and knowingly misled the nation into a war that cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis their lives and continues to destabilize the entire region to this day.

    No, I wouldn't be pal'in around with G.W. Bush if I were her.

    --Sam
    That doesn't change anything she said. You just prove my point though - there is no living with leftists...

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  • Sam
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    Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
    So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
    That is not what I wrote.

    I do believe that the damage someone causes elsewhere should impact decisions of friendship, however. I've dropped friends I discovered were abusive or discriminatory to others, for example. In part because my association with such people harmed others who are themselves victims of abuse or discrimination.

    George Bush did enormous damage, domestically and internationally. And he did it intentionally and for political gain. People are responsible for their actions and decisions about association are part of being held accountable.

    --Sam

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  • QuantaFille
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    Originally posted by Sam View Post
    In order to win re-election in 2004, George Bush and the RNC worked to include a marriage amendment that banned same-sex marriage on the ballots of battleground states. If Bush had gotten his way, not only would DeGeneres be prohibited from marrying her partner, millions of LGBT+ Americans who see her as a rights leader would be prohibited from marriage.

    He also reintroduced torture to American military strategy and knowingly misled the nation into a war that cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis their lives and continues to destabilize the entire region to this day.

    No, I wouldn't be pal'in around with G.W. Bush if I were her.

    --Sam
    So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.

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  • Sam
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Just saw a video of her talking about 'hanging out' with George Bush, and explaining that you can actually be friends with somebody even if you totally disagree with them.

    In order to win re-election in 2004, George Bush and the RNC worked to include a marriage amendment that banned same-sex marriage on the ballots of battleground states. If Bush had gotten his way, not only would DeGeneres be prohibited from marrying her partner, millions of LGBT+ Americans who see her as a rights leader would be prohibited from marriage.

    He also reintroduced torture to American military strategy and knowingly misled the nation into a war that cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis their lives and continues to destabilize the entire region to this day.

    No, I wouldn't be pal'in around with G.W. Bush if I were her.

    --Sam

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Just saw a video of her talking about 'hanging out' with George Bush, and explaining that you can actually be friends with somebody even if you totally disagree with them.
    And she is getting a lot of grief from the left...

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  • Cow Poke
    started a topic Ellen DeGeneres is Right

    Ellen DeGeneres is Right

    Just saw a video of her talking about 'hanging out' with George Bush, and explaining that you can actually be friends with somebody even if you totally disagree with them.

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