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  • Ellen DeGeneres is Right

    Just saw a video of her talking about 'hanging out' with George Bush, and explaining that you can actually be friends with somebody even if you totally disagree with them.

    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Just saw a video of her talking about 'hanging out' with George Bush, and explaining that you can actually be friends with somebody even if you totally disagree with them.
    And she is getting a lot of grief from the left...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Just saw a video of her talking about 'hanging out' with George Bush, and explaining that you can actually be friends with somebody even if you totally disagree with them.

      In order to win re-election in 2004, George Bush and the RNC worked to include a marriage amendment that banned same-sex marriage on the ballots of battleground states. If Bush had gotten his way, not only would DeGeneres be prohibited from marrying her partner, millions of LGBT+ Americans who see her as a rights leader would be prohibited from marriage.

      He also reintroduced torture to American military strategy and knowingly misled the nation into a war that cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis their lives and continues to destabilize the entire region to this day.

      No, I wouldn't be pal'in around with G.W. Bush if I were her.

      --Sam
      "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sam View Post
        In order to win re-election in 2004, George Bush and the RNC worked to include a marriage amendment that banned same-sex marriage on the ballots of battleground states. If Bush had gotten his way, not only would DeGeneres be prohibited from marrying her partner, millions of LGBT+ Americans who see her as a rights leader would be prohibited from marriage.

        He also reintroduced torture to American military strategy and knowingly misled the nation into a war that cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis their lives and continues to destabilize the entire region to this day.

        No, I wouldn't be pal'in around with G.W. Bush if I were her.

        --Sam
        So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
        Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
          So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
          That is not what I wrote.

          I do believe that the damage someone causes elsewhere should impact decisions of friendship, however. I've dropped friends I discovered were abusive or discriminatory to others, for example. In part because my association with such people harmed others who are themselves victims of abuse or discrimination.

          George Bush did enormous damage, domestically and internationally. And he did it intentionally and for political gain. People are responsible for their actions and decisions about association are part of being held accountable.

          --Sam
          "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sam View Post
            In order to win re-election in 2004, George Bush and the RNC worked to include a marriage amendment that banned same-sex marriage on the ballots of battleground states. If Bush had gotten his way, not only would DeGeneres be prohibited from marrying her partner, millions of LGBT+ Americans who see her as a rights leader would be prohibited from marriage.

            He also reintroduced torture to American military strategy and knowingly misled the nation into a war that cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis their lives and continues to destabilize the entire region to this day.

            No, I wouldn't be pal'in around with G.W. Bush if I were her.

            --Sam
            That doesn't change anything she said. You just prove my point though - there is no living with leftists...
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
              So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
              Sam has the extraordinary gift of seeing darkness where others see a beautiful sunrise.

              By the way --- the sunrise at my house this morning...

              2019-10-08 07.31.57.jpg

              (Sorry about the slightly "off level" - I'm on drugs due to my knee)
              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                That doesn't change anything she said. You just prove my point though - there is no living with leftists...

                Not if you lie a nation into a war and reintroduce torture, no. I suspect we wouldn't make good neighbors.
                "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
                  So what you're saying, is that people should only hang out with people they agree with? Interesting.
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                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sam View Post
                    That is not what I wrote.

                    I do believe that the damage someone causes elsewhere should impact decisions of friendship, however. I've dropped friends I discovered were abusive or discriminatory to others, for example. In part because my association with such people harmed others who are themselves victims of abuse or discrimination.

                    George Bush did enormous damage, domestically and internationally. And he did it intentionally and for political gain. People are responsible for their actions and decisions about association are part of being held accountable.

                    --Sam
                    When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?"
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sam View Post
                      Not if you lie a nation into a war and reintroduce torture, no. I suspect we wouldn't make good neighbors.
                      Leaving out Bush as an extreme example (him being a former president), would or could you be friends with right-wingers in general?
                      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Sam has the extraordinary gift of seeing darkness where others see a beautiful sunrise.

                        By the way --- the sunrise at my house this morning...

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                        (Sorry about the slightly "off level" - I'm on drugs due to my knee)

                        ~200,000 Iraqi civilians won't see that sunrise. People who died at the hands of American torturers won't see it. That should have some weight.

                        --Sam
                        "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sam View Post
                          Not if you lie a nation into a war and reintroduce torture, no. I suspect we wouldn't make good neighbors.
                          Well I personally wouldn't have a problem with watering boarding a Jihadist if I thought it would save your life or the lives of fellow Marines. And I don't think Bush lied, I believe, they really believed, there were still WMD in Iraq.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sam View Post
                            ~200,000 Iraqi civilians won't see that sunrise. People who died at the hands of American torturers won't see it. That should have some weight.

                            --Sam
                            And Ellen NOT sitting with Bush at a ballgame would have prevented that.
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              Well I personally wouldn't have a problem with watering boarding a Jihadist if I thought it would save your life or the lives of fellow Marines. And I don't think Bush lied, I believe, they really believed, there were still WMD in Iraq.
                              As did Bill Clinton and others before it became "Bush lied, people died".
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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