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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    That's so true!

    Same here, to my danish friends I mostly defend him, or point out that better criticisms of him and his actions should be made, other than how his character makes you feel.
    You are a closet Republican!

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  • Teallaura
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    I don't recall anyone calling for Obama's impeachment before he even took office... Or Republicans constantly screeching for impeachment after Benghazi...

    Or joining the Controversy of the Week Club...

    Just sayin'...

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  • Leonhard
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    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
    That's good to hear! Outside of TWeb, I find myself very often defending Trump, because, yes, the hate towards him is so extreme that people seem to have a very hard time distinguishing fact from fiction. I don't want to defend him. I can't stand him, but truth is more important to me than my dislike of him. And in the same way I feel (especially when talking to family) that Obama, who I also wasn't too fond of (but who I didn't dislike as much as Trump), wasn't the antichrist. In my opinion, and maybe I'm wrong, the worse thing about his presidency was that he was completely ineffectual. People on both the right and the left disliked him for being a man who couldn't/wouldn't get anything done...except a few minor changes in healthcare I guess.
    That's so true!

    Same here, to my danish friends I mostly defend him, or point out that better criticisms of him and his actions should be made, other than how his character makes you feel.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
    That's good to hear! Outside of TWeb, I find myself very often defending Trump, because, yes, the hate towards him is so extreme that people seem to have a very hard time distinguishing fact from fiction. I don't want to defend him. I can't stand him, but truth is more important to me than my dislike of him. And in the same way I feel (especially when talking to family) that Obama, who I also wasn't too fond of (but who I didn't dislike as much as Trump), wasn't the antichrist. In my opinion, and maybe I'm wrong, the worse thing about his presidency was that he was completely ineffectual. People on both the right and the left disliked him for being a man who couldn't/wouldn't get anything done...except a few minor changes in healthcare I guess.
    I can't think of a single time that I hated Obama so much that I jumped hard on the first opportunity to "glum on" to a rumor.... There were plenty of things to dislike without making stuff up, or believing the "he's a secret Muslim" stuff.

    Same with Trump - he does enough actually stupid stuff that somebody shouldn't have to jump on rumors or conspiracies or false accusations.

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  • Adrift
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I have to admit, Adrift, that all this extreme HATE TRUMP stuff has had me thinking my own dislike for Obama. Again, I was still posting lots of other stuff besides Obama, but this extreme hate has made me reconsider my own opposition to a President I might not like.
    That's good to hear! Outside of TWeb, I find myself very often defending Trump, because, yes, the hate towards him is so extreme that people seem to have a very hard time distinguishing fact from fiction. I don't want to defend him. I can't stand him, but truth is more important to me than my dislike of him. And in the same way I feel (especially when talking to family) that Obama, who I also wasn't too fond of (but who I didn't dislike as much as Trump), wasn't the antichrist. In my opinion, and maybe I'm wrong, the worse thing about his presidency was that he was completely ineffectual. People on both the right and the left disliked him for being a man who couldn't/wouldn't get anything done...except a few minor changes in healthcare I guess.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
    I agree that since Trump took office, the tone of Civics has become even more severe by certain factions, but people on this forum HATED on Obama. As an outside observer, it didn't seem unusual to see people nitpick every little itty-bitty thing he said or did where they might give Trump a full pass. I think a lot of that boils down to news media that makes it their job to take every turn of phrase and make a mountain out of a molehill. When Obama was in office, it was news radio and Fox, and now that Trump is in office, it's the rest of the media.
    I have to admit, Adrift, that all this extreme HATE TRUMP stuff has had me thinking my own dislike for Obama. Again, I was still posting lots of other stuff besides Obama, but this extreme hate has made me reconsider my own opposition to a President I might not like.

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  • Adrift
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    I agree that since Trump took office, the tone of Civics has become even more severe by certain factions, but people on this forum HATED on Obama. As an outside observer, it didn't seem unusual to see people nitpick every little itty-bitty thing he said or did where they might give Trump a full pass. I think a lot of that boils down to news media that makes it their job to take every turn of phrase and make a mountain out of a molehill. When Obama was in office, it was news radio and Fox, and now that Trump is in office, it's the rest of the media.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post


    I'd say it was more like half the threads at most had anything at all to do with Obama and the majority of those were about policy (like Obamacare) rather than about him.

    What's more, Civics wasn't the main forum whereas now the majority of all posts are made here with virtually everything Trump, Trump, Trump.

    And add on to that I don't recall anyone so obsessed that they changed virtually every discussion into one about Obama. Now we have a number of posters that immediately try to change every topic into one about Trump.
    And bacon.

    Some of the hate Trump crowd can't even post about bacon!

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    I beg to differ. Civics was practically nothing but posts about “Obamacare”, whether Obama was a secret Muslim Communist, and/or whether he was born in Kenya.
    I never claimed any of those things, Leon, so with regards to me, you're incredibly broad brushing.

    While I complained about Obama when he did something stupid - like keep inflaming racist issues - it did not consume me -- I still posted about plenty of other things.

    Some of the posters here seem to pretty much ONLY be able to post hate Trump stuff.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    I beg to differ. Civics was practically nothing but posts about “Obamacare”, whether Obama was a secret Muslim Communist, and/or whether he was born in Kenya.


    I'd say it was more like half the threads at most had anything at all to do with Obama and the majority of those were about policy (like Obamacare) rather than about him.

    What's more, Civics wasn't the main forum whereas now the majority of all posts are made here with virtually everything Trump, Trump, Trump.

    And add on to that I don't recall anyone so obsessed that they changed virtually every discussion into one about Obama. Now we have a number of posters that immediately try to change every topic into one about Trump.

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  • Leonhard
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    I beg to differ. Civics was practically nothing but posts about “Obamacare”, whether Obama was a secret Muslim Communist, and/or whether he was born in Kenya.

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  • Teallaura
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Psssshawww... when Rogue was 10, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission was at our house, and he was leading them around by the nose!
    That's possibly the least impressive thing he ever did. After all, all they kept saying was 'sure, Kid. Now, where's your mom?'

    Of course, they fell for his 'heavy water' trick with you holding the bucket at the bottom of the well..

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    To be fair, Obama lived rent free in your head for eight years.
    Naw, I don't think so. I've actually thought about that quite a bit, and while I was certainly unhappy with Obama at times, he didn't dictate pretty much every post I wrote on Tweb. Nowhere near!

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  • mikewhitney
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    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    So how do we transcend that gap? For example, immigration is an issue where this sort of thing has come up. What the Bible teaches about how we are to treat a foreign person, about how we are to respond to 'aliens' who are in our land, those in need, those in prison, are very much in conflict with how Trump wants to address the issue, and I don't understand how a Christian can fully support Trump's approach without burying or ignoring scripture on those issues.


    Jim
    The Mosaic Laws on strangers were not that they should bring in Sharia law and do as they please -- nor that the migrants could violate all laws and change the religion and God-centered focus of the nation. Instead, the Mosaic Law said that the people coming in shall be subject to the same laws. Or do you think we ought to just bow down and worship these other gods, in the name of civility?

    It is the UN policy to dilute European cultures by having borderless nations. The allowance of an outsider non-Christian group to determine the inhabitants of our nation seems a far cry from what the Mosaic Law requires.

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  • Leonhard
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Walks like it, talks like it.... Trump lives rent-free in your head, Jim. It's pretty much all you talk about anymore.
    To be fair, Obama lived rent free in your head for eight years.

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