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  • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    Knowing Trumps history in business and seeing how he has conducted himself in office I would at first glance assume him to be guilty, but I would check out the evidence in either case before making an ultimate determination.


    You guys were ready to string Trump from the highest tree over the cancelled Russian hotel project! So spare me your delusions of impartially and objectivity.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
      There has to be an indication of a crime - otherwise it's a fishing expedition and on shaky constitutional ground.

      The Ukrainians appear to have grounds (assuming their laws are similar to ours) but I don't see any against Trump at this stage when there is already an open question of wrongdoing in the Ukraine matter. 'Looks fishy' isn't sufficient.
      I was actually talking about Biden's link to the Ukraine, not Trump. I actually believe Trump set this up, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, so that the story would eventually reflect on Biden and his son.
      Last edited by seanD; 09-21-2019, 04:10 PM.
      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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      • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
        Maybe not, but a bachelors degree from Georgetown and a Juris Doctor from Yale law school would probably do the trick.
        So would having a daddy who is VP of the US and has enough clout to force a foreign government to drop an investigation into his son's corrupt company. $50,000/mo might have been a bargain!
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post


          You guys were ready to string Trump from the highest tree over the cancelled Russian hotel project! So spare me your delusions of impartially and objectivity.
          You guys? You have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't even know of the Trump tower project until long after the Trump campaign investigation began, and I still don't know what's going on with that. No doubt, knowing Trump as we do, it's a crooked deal of some sorts though.

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          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            So would having a daddy who is VP of the US.
            So what, that's a fact of life, and not a crime.


            and has enough clout to force a foreign government to drop an investigation into his son's corrupt company. $50,000/mo might have been a bargain!
            There you go with the unsubstantiated accusations again. See if you can come up with something real, instead of just slander, MM. I doubt you can.

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            • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
              What's with all the consevative propaganda sites, Tea.

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Why do the Clintons, Obamas, Pelosi and Schumer and the four horsemen of the squad have to worry about Warren?
                They don't, Trump and the blind lemmings who idolize the con man, do.

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                • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                  I was actually talking about Biden's link to the Ukraine, not Trump. I actually believe Trump set this up, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, so that the story would eventually reflect on Biden and his son.
                  You think Trump set it up, and you think that the DNI head and the Atty Gen is in on it as well? That in itself would be an impeachable abuse of power.

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                  • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                    There you go with the unsubstantiated accusations again. See if you can come up with something real, instead of just slander, MM. I doubt you can.
                    Dude, Joe said so himself, in front of television cameras!

                    I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't. So they said, as we were walking out to the press conference, they kind of said no; and I said, "I'm not going-- or we're not going to give you the billion dollars." They said, "You have no authority. You're not the president; the president said--" I said, "Call him." I said, "I'm telling you, you're not getting a billions dollars." I said, "You're not getting a billion. I'm leaving here--" I think it was about six-hours. I looked, I said, "I'm leaving in six-hours." I said, "If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money." Oh, son of a [beep] got fired!



                    And don't forget, the Ukrainian government found this whole episode distasteful enough that they have repeatedly petitioned the US government to investigate, even to the point of hiring a US attorney to hand deliver evidence to Federal prosecutors in New York!
                    Last edited by Mountain Man; 09-21-2019, 04:53 PM.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      You think Trump set it up, and you think that the DNI head and the Atty Gen is in on it as well? That in itself would be an impeachable abuse of power.
                      If it was intentionally set up, it depends on how it was set up. It could simply be a case where information was knowingly leaked to a person they knew would betray his admin and go to the press. However, that part isn't clear at the moment. One thing is clear, I'm guessing not many folks would know about the Biden/Hunter Ukraine connection if this hadn't happened, and so conveniently close to election, and the more the issue is sensationalized by the MSM, the more this information will get out to general public.
                      Last edited by seanD; 09-21-2019, 05:16 PM.
                      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                      • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                        I was actually talking about Biden's link to the Ukraine, not Trump. I actually believe Trump set this up, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, so that the story would eventually reflect on Biden and his son.
                        Ah, okay.


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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          What's with all the consevative propaganda sites, Tea.
                          Note the dates - and Bloomberg?

                          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


                          "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

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                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            Oh the ultra conservative head of a conservative think tank....
                            Like so much of what you claim....

                            thats not in your link
                            ...you can't help but get so much WRONG.
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                            • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                              I was actually talking about Biden's link to the Ukraine, not Trump. I actually believe Trump set this up, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, so that the story would eventually reflect on Biden and his son.
                              And Biden is so whacked out he took the bait and is stupid enough to keep this in the news --- it can't hurt Trump, but it can sure backfire on Biden.
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                              • Originally posted by seanD View Post
                                ...I actually believe Trump set this up, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, so that the story would eventually reflect on Biden and his son.
                                You might enjoy this about that....

                                Is Trump Tricking the Media Into Covering Ukraine?
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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