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Colt suspends production of AR-15 for civilian market
https://apnews.com/fbdf5e5f6d654332bbedfaffe3663154
Not that matters, everybody and their brother are making them now...
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Basically firearm technology is not allowed to improve or innovate at all. We need to go back to late 19th century technology, revolvers and rifles that have to be cocked for every shot.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI would think that would be self explanatory but: an AR-15 is ... an AR-15. It would mean that specific rifle banned or controlled.
Like an AR-15 could be as specific as those weapons incorporating many of the elements of the AR15 design, of which there are several. Or it could be as broad as to mean any modern lightweight, low recoil, high magazine capacity, high velocity munitions, semi-automatic rifle.
Jim
And you didn't do much better with the second part essentially opening it up to describe the vast majority of semi-automatic rifles as being AR-15 like while you just said the AR-15 is distinctive.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Postfair enough.
Jim
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat would be good - if it doesn't exist. But I believe people that have committed violent acts (e.g. domestic violence) also need to be prohibited access to any firearm. And I don't believe it should be possible to buy a gun from anyone anywhere without a thorough background check. And I think any high capacity semi-automatic, pistol, rifle, whatever, needs to be licensed with mandatory safety training and a thorough vetting of their criminal and psychological history, perhaps with term limits on the licence much like we do drivers licences so that they are periodically re-evaluated for fitness to own such weapons.
Jim
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat would be good - if it doesn't exist. But I believe people that have committed violent acts (e.g. domestic violence) also need to be prohibited access to any firearm. And I don't believe it should be possible to buy a gun from anyone anywhere without a thorough background check. And I think any high capacity semi-automatic, pistol, rifle, whatever, needs to be licensed with mandatory safety training and a thorough vetting of their criminal and psychological history, perhaps with term limits on the licence much like we do drivers licences so that they are periodically re-evaluated for fitness to own such weapons.
Jim
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostDidn't say ban. I said law abiding mentally stable people can handle them. But we must have controls in place to prevent people that are not law abiding mentally stable people from handling them. And that will include laws to make sure proper safety precautions are taken in the storage of the guns to prevent children from getting to then without supervision, or thieves from getting them easily if they break in.
JimLast edited by lilpixieofterror; 09-19-2019, 08:49 AM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostHow about this - a 5 years mandatory federal sentence if you use a firearm in the commission of a crime. No way the leftists would support it because it would effect minorities disproportionately.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 09-19-2019, 08:39 AM.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSo you want to ban 80% of all modern rifles sold. Got it.
Jim
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI would think that would be self explanatory but: an AR-15 is ... an AR-15. It would mean that specific rifle banned or controlled.
Like an AR-15 could be as specific as those weapons incorporating many of the elements of the AR15 design, of which there are several. Or it could be as broad as to mean any modern lightweight, low recoil, high magazine capacity, high velocity munitions, semi-automatic rifle.
Jim
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAs far as keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, yeah I am for that too, and it is already the law. If someone is convicted of a felony, they are not allowed to have a gun in every state I know of. Even AFTER they have served their sentences.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat part of "LIKE an AR15" are you not grasping?
What part of "there may be other weapons even more optimal" eludes you?
Cops train Sparko.
I've told the story before of a lady friend we had that was attacked in her home, she got a pistol, and the guy returned and she unloaded it on him and every bullet missed. And yes, you can use a pistol if you want to. I'm really not about banning AR15's, I'm about putting up some tough controls on guns period.
And like Pix said, ENFORCE the laws we have. And COMMUNICATE between agencies and medical staff when a person is showing signs of violent behavior. One thing I've heard that makes sense is that there is a strong correlation between domestic abuse and gun violence. So maybe it's time to take guns away from people that are abusing their spouses. How many times do we hear about an jilted lover chasing down his girlfriend or ex wife and shooting her the people near her and then himself.
There just need to be common sense laws governing the ownership of firearms. Safety training. the use of gun safes and locks. Restrictions based on violent behavior that have real teeth (mandatory jail time of you've beaten your wife and are found with a weapon on you, or of you leave a gun where a child or teenager can get to it) etc etc.
As far as keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, yeah I am for that too, and it is already the law. If someone is convicted of a felony, they are not allowed to have a gun in every state I know of. Even AFTER they have served their sentences.
I think law abiding, sane, stable people can handle guns just fine. But they do not need to be in the hands of unstable personalities, or unsupervised minors. And part of that is making them harder to get, so that only sane, law abiding, stable people have them.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostJim, can you explain the difference between an AR-15 or like an AR-15 and other semi-automatic rifles?
Like an AR-15 could be as specific as those weapons incorporating many of the elements of the AR15 design, of which there are several. Or it could be as broad as to mean any modern lightweight, low recoil, high magazine capacity, high velocity munitions, semi-automatic rifle.
Jim
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