Announcement

Collapse

Civics 101 Guidelines

Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!

Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less

Why NC-9 Should Frighten the Democrats

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
    Er, technically, they didn't 'pursue' legislation...

    Read a WP article - the Dems claim the Speaker promised no votes and local outlets report only one or two Dems actually attended 9/11 memorials at the time. The Speaker denies making the promise.

    How did the Democrats not know the legislature was in session? Where were they?
    I can't read that paywalled site but given the specific nature of the allegation of notice from multiple parties, I see no reason to believe that denial. One prominent Democrat has pointed to the existence of a paper trail documenting this.

    They did know they were in session but figured the gravity of the date was such that both sides might agree that politics could be put aside for a few hours.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

    Comment


    • #17
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      The term "bellwether" was being tossed around by liberal pundits before the election, saying that it would be a preview of the 2020 election. There were actually two races in North Carolina. One was a blowout in favor of the Republicans, the other, in the 9th district, was a narrow win. Of course the narrative immediately changed, and now it's no longer a sign of things to come.
      Funny how that works.
      "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

      Comment


      • #18
        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
        Sounds like to me the Republicans calculated slyly, and exploited a chance opportunity, and cheated their enemy.
        Quite possibly - but where were these guys?

        "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


        "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

        My Personal Blog

        My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)

        Comment


        • #19
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          I can't read that paywalled site but given the specific nature of the allegation of notice from multiple parties, I see no reason to believe that denial. One prominent Democrat has pointed to the existence of a paper trail documenting this.

          They did know they were in session but figured the gravity of the date was such that both sides might agree that politics could be put aside for a few hours.
          ? Paywall?

          I didn't see one - sorry.

          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


          "Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman

          My Personal Blog

          My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)

          Comment


          • #20
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            Nope, just a local controversy.

            The Republicans in the state legislature waited until most of the Democrats were at a 9/11 memorial service to sneak overturn the governor's veto of the budget (after promising they wouldn't pursue any legislation). I'm furious.
            Nothing new, that is how the republican party operates, when republicans know they can't win democratically, they find ways to undermine the democratic process. This was just a blatant example of what they do. The reason they even had this special election is because of the election fraud they carried out in the last election.

            Comment


            • #21
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Nothing new, that is how the republican party operates, when republicans know they can't win democratically, they find ways to undermine the democratic process. This was just a blatant example of what they do. The reason they even had this special election is because of the election fraud they carried out in the last election.
              Thatís rich. Tell me again what party has used the courts to shove their agenda down the throats of Americans.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                Thatís rich. Tell me again what party has used the courts to shove their agenda down the throats of Americans.
                You don't believe in courts, eh Lilpix? Typical republican!

                Comment


                • #23
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  You don't believe in courts, eh Lilpix? Typical republican!
                  Your claim:

                  ďRepublicans know that they canít win democratically...Ē

                  So tell us, how many issues did liberals take to the courts because they couldnít win through the ballet box?
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                    Your claim:

                    ďRepublicans know that they canít win democratically...Ē

                    So tell us, how many issues did liberals take to the courts because they couldnít win through the ballet box?
                    Actually it's your claim, so you tell me.

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Actually it's your claim, so you tell me.
                      Sorry Jimmy, but even a high school history student can name court cases that were used to pass measures that faced losses at the ballet box. Youíre the one making the claim that republicans canít win democratically. Not my fault you donít remember court cases where liberals did exactly that. Bypassed the democratic process because they couldnít win at the ballet box.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                        Thatís rich. Tell me again what party has used the courts to shove their agenda down the throats of Americans.
                        Trick question. Both of them have.

                        Though I would say the Democratic Party does do it more often.

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                          Trick question. Both of them have.

                          Though I would say the Democratic Party does do it more often.
                          Both parties have no issue doing what it takes to win. Itís just pure irony that Jimmy attacks Republicans for trying to subvert the democratic process when many of the most important liberal victories, over the past 50 years, have been handed through forcing the issue through the courts when ballet box measures fail. Even better is changing up the senate and house rules and than complaining when your opponents start playing by your own rules.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                            Both parties have no issue doing what it takes to win. Itís just pure irony that Jimmy attacks Republicans for trying to subvert the democratic process when many of the most important liberal victories, over the past 50 years, have been handed through forcing the issue through the courts when ballet box measures fail. Even better is changing up the senate and house rules and than complaining when your opponents start playing by your own rules.
                            First off I didn't claim there was anything wrong with going through the courts, that's what courts are for. But you made the challenge that only liberals win through the courts, so it's up to you to prove it.

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              First off I didn't claim there was anything wrong with going through the courts, that's what courts are for. But you made the challenge that only liberals win through the courts, so it's up to you to prove it.
                              She didn't say only.
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                First off I didn't claim there was anything wrong with going through the courts, that's what courts are for. But you made the challenge that only liberals win through the courts, so it's up to you to prove it.
                                I never said that. Maybe you should try not making up something in order to make it easier to refute. The point is that democrats are more than willing to subvert democratic processes, in order to win. A thing you seem to believe to be something only republicans do.
                                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

                                Comment

                                Related Threads

                                Collapse

                                Topics Statistics Last Post
                                Started by rogue06, Today, 03:56 PM
                                3 responses
                                21 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Ronson
                                by Ronson
                                 
                                Started by seer, Today, 11:32 AM
                                13 responses
                                72 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post seanD
                                by seanD
                                 
                                Started by rogue06, Today, 09:11 AM
                                1 response
                                29 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Sparko
                                by Sparko
                                 
                                Started by rogue06, Today, 07:28 AM
                                1 response
                                31 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Ronson
                                by Ronson
                                 
                                Started by CivilDiscourse, Today, 06:44 AM
                                17 responses
                                92 views
                                1 like
                                Last Post Mountain Man  
                                Working...
                                X