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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostMy point was that you don't actually practice your definition despite preaching it.
It also means the ability or willingness to tolerate the existence of opinions or behaviour that one dislikes or disagrees with.
synonyms: forbearance, toleration, sufferance, liberality, open-mindedness, lack of prejudice, lack of bias, broad-mindedness, liberalism;
patience, long-suffering, magnanimity, sympathy, understanding, charity, lenience, leniency, lenity, indulgence, clemency, permissiveness, complaisance, laxness.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostSince you don’t seem to like my definition may I ask what yours is.
Here ya go:
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThere is no reasoning about gods and the magic they perform. If they were reasonable they would not be gods and their actions would not be magic. What JPH is talking about is his view given the suspension of disbelief that he experiences because he is enthralled by the book. All belief comes from this position which is alongside reality and is the same that you would experience if you are engrossed in a movie or a good thriller. Because it is constantly repeated, the artificial reality of the book becomes ingrained. Religion is that sort of habit, a bit like smoking or alcohol.
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Originally posted by seer View PostFF, no one on this board thinks you are open minded. Are we all wrong? Ok, here is a start, you often speak of people of faith and reason. I mentioned this earlier. We believe that a rational God created an intelligible universe and rational creatures. The rational created the rational with intention. But if you are a non-theist then you must believe that the non-rational, non-intending forces of nature created rational beings. The non-rational creating the rational - by accident (without intention). Why does your position make more sense than mine? How is it that the non-rational forces of nature can be considered a suitable source for human rationality?
There may be scientific answers ahead of us to questions about consciousness, morality on so on. We can hope that the scientific method will continue to be as fruitful as it so far has proved. The religious method, in my opinion, is bogged down in nonsense and strange rituals to the point that it does not itself know anymore what it is trying to do. It is confused by scientific discoveries, not enlightened by them. It only pretends to give answers to the important questions.
This is not closed minded; it is just where I stand at the moment. I do not mind that religion works for you but it is not hazard free for the rest of us because you cannot appeal against God's plan.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostMy political opinions are in about the middle. I can’t think of anything I have written that would be especially controversial in most circles. My various prejudices are moveable. You seem to think that because I disagree with you about how the world operates I ought to shut up and go away. That would be your intolerance; not mine. I claim no special knowledge and I think it is good to hear a diversity of views and argue about them. I am fascinated by your opinions even though I find it difficult to drag them out of you. It so happens that I think many of my own opinions are soundly based but I am willing to be convinced otherwise. Do you have that same willingness? One of the very striking absurdities about the faithful is that they say that nothing would convince them to give up their faith. This is the very definition of closed mindedness. I am not in that particular camp.
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Originally posted by seer View PostYour problem FF, is that you can't see or will not admit that political philosophies like the one you hold can become just as ingrained and impervious to reason as any religious view. In my many discussion with you it is obvious that not only are you intolerant of the views of others, you also only give lip service to the concept of diversity. These two ideals that you so laud are the very things that you (and most on the left) do not practice.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThere is no reasoning about gods and the magic they perform. If they were reasonable they would not be gods and their actions would not be magic. What JPH is talking about is his view given the suspension of disbelief that he experiences because he is enthralled by the book. All belief comes from this position which is alongside reality and is the same that you would experience if you are engrossed in a movie or a good thriller. Because it is constantly repeated, the artificial realty of the book becomes ingrained. Religion is that sort of habit, a bit like smoking or alcohol.Last edited by seer; 05-14-2014, 07:25 AM.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
You don't understand the first thing about faith.Last edited by firstfloor; 05-14-2014, 06:58 AM.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostA 'quiz' that contains a bunch of 'questions' in which you either answer the way they want you to answer or else you're a bigot. Do you really think I don't recognize this type of quiz FF?
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostYou might be. I would recommend a self test and try to avoid calling a bigot a bigot ‘cos they are likely to call you a bigot right back.
http://helloquizzy.okcupid.com/tests...ous-bigot-test
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostIt's exactly what I made the poor little butter bar (Second Lieutenant) admit. It's enforced viewpoint compliance. There is no "diversity" in thought or word. You either speak what they tell you to, or else.
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou mean it would be OK to fire a homosexual because he supports gay marriage publicly?
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