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  • Originally posted by seer View Post
    Don't they all eat grits and marry their sisters?

    That's the Alabama convention. And it's cousins.



    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Many Southern Baptists don't like grits.
      I always considered grits a "filler" food (something you ate if you were still hungry and the "real" food was gone), but that was before I had some at the Flying Biscuit Cafe in Atlanta. As smooth as half-melted ice cream and delicious

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • Originally posted by seer View Post
        Don't they all eat grits and marry their sisters?
        Only in Alabamastan and Mississipavania

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          That's the Alabama convention. And it's cousins.



          Sorry!
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Many Southern Baptists don't like grits.
            So, you are not too worried about the cult of death as long as the members are Southern Baptists?
            "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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            • Originally posted by Charles View Post
              So, you are not too worried about the cult of death as long as the members are Southern Baptists?
              That makes no sense whatsoever, Charles. Wanna take another run at it?
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Only in Alabamastan and Mississipavania
                But if they got divorced, would they still be siblings or cousins?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  That makes no sense whatsoever, Charles. Wanna take another run at it?
                  I pointed out that 3 out of 10 Southern Baptists say abortion should be legal in most circumstances. You started to talk about something else as if it was nothing to worry about.
                  "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                  • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                    So, you are not too worried about the cult of death as long as the members are Southern Baptists?
                    Pre-Wade, many were understandingly concerned about abortion being illegal in all circumstances leading to thousands of girls and women dying during the infamous "back-alley abortions." This is called compassion.

                    Now here is a scenario for you to chew on...

                    Ater Wade, when it became abortion on demand and a substitute for birth control ("unintended consequences" that in their naďvety they didn't foresee) and it started to become clear that the deaths caused by illegal abortions were grossly exaggerated (and still is) in order to garner support for abortion, they realized that they were on the wrong side and decided to try to undo what they had helped to bring about.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      But if they got divorced, would they still be siblings or cousins?
                      Cue the song Dueling Banjos.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Pre-Wade, many were understandingly concerned about abortion being illegal in all circumstances leading to thousands of girls and women dying during the infamous "back-alley abortions." This is called compassion.

                        Now here is a scenario for you to chew on...

                        Ater Wade, when it became abortion on demand and a substitute for birth control ("unintended consequences" that in their naďvety they didn't foresee) and it started to become clear that the deaths caused by illegal abortions were grossly exaggerated (and still is) in order to garner support for abortion, they realized that they were on the wrong side and decided to try to undo what they had helped to bring about.
                        Which is why 3 out of 10 Southern Baptists say abortion should be legal in most circumstances?
                        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                        • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                          I pointed out that 3 out of 10 Southern Baptists say abortion should be legal in most circumstances. You started to talk about something else as if it was nothing to worry about.
                          It IS nothing to worry about, Charles. "Southern Baptist" is a very big label, and encompasses all kinds of people, many of whom aren't necessarily "saved", and many of which are liberal theologically and politically.

                          We don't have a Pope, and two of our fundamental precepts are "the priesthood of the believer" and "the autonomy of the local Church". Southern Baptists are allowed to believe whatever they want, and we still love them.

                          The fact that a minority believe abortion should be legal is their right.

                          I don't worry about my liberal Southern Baptist friends who have liberal leanings, because I find that as they become more educated in what abortion is, they tend to change their view. I see it nearly every week at our pregnancy center.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            FACT: You grossly overstated Crisswell's importance to the matter,
                            Criswell was a senior pastor in the Southern Baptist Convention and his views on abortion vis-a-vis Roe v Wade were representative of the general view at the time among Evangelicals. “A 1968 a symposium sponsored by the Christian Medical Society and Christianity Today, the flagship magazine of evangelicalism, refused to characterize abortion as sinful, citing 'individual health, family welfare, and social responsibility' as justifications for ending a pregnancy”.

                            http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/abortion

                            In this they were following the traditional Judeo/Christian belief that in Jewish law and belief an unborn fetus is not considered a person (Heb. nefesh, lit. “soul”) until it has been born.
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Is there a verse that says "thou shalt not commit abortion"?
                              Considering most human cultures throughout history have practiced / tolerated abortion / infanticide, including cultures in biblical times, isn't it surprising none of the ~613 commandments in the OT nor any of the ~1050 commandments in the NT bother to condemn it? Seems pretty clear that the biblical writers knew of the practice and didn't condemn it.

                              If you were to write a list of 1663 commandments, somehow I think you'd include a prohibition against abortion. Which simply shows your values are not the bible's values.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • As far as scientific sources go, that ones pretty dodgy, cos you're linking to an unreviewed draft paper, so the author could have written literally anything and posted it on the internet and in that sense its no better than a post in this forum.

                                But I don't have any disagreement with the alleged findings. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if 95 percent of biologists say human life begins at conception. I myself would say human life begins at conception if you asked me.

                                But what you don't seem to get is that most people today who support abortion being legal wouldn't view that fact as being relevant to the discussion. It's no more relevant than surveying people as to whether the sky is blue... it's a fact, and you could survey 100 sky experts and get 95 of them to affirm it's blue, but it doesn't usefully relate to the moral / ethical / legal / political / philosophical / theological question of whether abortion should be legal or not.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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