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"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostRead it several times Charles and you’re just trying to play more of your silly games. At least try to be honest.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd he'll ask a really dumb question, then hound you to death for not responding to it. It's all part of his mentality."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostBack to the ad hominems.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBack to the whining."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostWhining? I have no problem when you so obviously demonstrate that you do not have anything of substance to adress my points. If you would like to prove me wrong skip the ad hominems and provide some good reasons."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Postyup"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYou skipped a huge part of that post.
Ad hominems and ignoring wont get you far.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Some more information about where the Southern Baptists stand with regard to abortion:
The SBC's official position on abortion is that "all human life is a sacred gift from our sovereign God" and that abortion is only moral in "very rare cases where the life of the mother is clearly in danger."
Even among Southern Baptists, though, there is some diversity of opinion on abortion.
Three in 10 Southern Baptists say abortion should be legal in most circumstances, according to a recent survey by the Pew Research Center.
Overall, 61% of white evangelical Protestants oppose abortion rights, which is actually down from 70% in 2017. To put that number in context, far more white evangelicals (76%) supported President Trump's ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/23/p...ama/index.html"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSome more information about where the Southern Baptists stand with regard to abortion:
So, seemingly, quite many of the Southern Baptists are also members of the cult of death.
Further, as has already been pointed out, we don't have a pope, and your quote that the "SBC's official position" is part of the OPINION piece you cited from those crazy right wing conservative nutjobs at CNN.
If you'd like to see the best representation of what Southern Baptists believe, you can check out the Baptist Faith & Message to which many of us subscribe. Note, however, that we are not a creedal people, and nobody is forced to agree with this position.
Baptist Faith & Message
You can quote "talking heads" and opinion surveys all you want, but the above is what we voted as our platform at our annual meetings.
Has Tassman enlisted you to be his henchman on messing with Southern Baptists?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostFurther, as has already been pointed out, we don't have a pope, and your quote that the "SBC's official position" is part of the OPINION piece you cited from those crazy right wing conservative nutjobs at CNN.
If you'd like to see the best representation of what Southern Baptists believe, you can check out the Baptist Faith & Message to which many of us subscribe. Note, however, that we are not a creedal people, and nobody is forced to agree with this position.
"all human life is a sacred gift from our sovereign God" and that abortion is only moral in "very rare cases where the life of the mother is clearly in danger." https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/23/p...ama/index.html
[...]all human life is a sacred gift from our sovereign God and therefore that all abortions, except in those very rare cases where the life of the mother is clearly in danger, are wrong[...] http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/26/re...h-abortion-banOriginally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou can quote "talking heads" and opinion surveys all you want, but the above is what we voted as our platform at our annual meetings.Last edited by Charles; 10-21-2019, 03:00 PM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSo here is the little fact check. Here is what was in the quote that you described as being from "the OPINION piece you cited from those crazy right wing conservative nutjobs at CNN."
Here is what you find at sbc.net (yes, the source you yourself pointed to):
If you had known better you would have known that the "talking heads" and those you describe as crazy told us what we find on the source you yourself pointed to.
Now, do you actually have a point, or are you just carrying water for Tassman?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd, perhaps it was lost on you that I was being a bit facetious that the folks at CNN would be considered conservative.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI know EXACTLY what it says, Charles, I helped write it.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostCharles, this is why nobody enjoys having conversations with you. The CNN piece contained that one line, then went off into "But it's still about politics"...."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI quoted your description of them. You cannot be too worried about that.
As I have demonstrated, you had at least seemingly forgotten what was in that text
or had some other reason to suggest the description in the article was not correct though you knew it were? Or is there some other reason you want to suggest a correct and fair description was an opionion by "talking heads" and people you describe as crazy?
You, however, took issues with the line that was correct and spent your time adressing that. Somehow adressing a correct qoute was more important than having a discussion about the rather large number of Southern Baptists who have joined the cult of death.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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