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  • seer
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Outside of the 4 most populous states the rest of the country would in effect be like colonies ordered around by them.
    And that is what then left wants...

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    If not for the EC, states with the biggest cities and densest populations would win every national election. Places like Montana and Utah may as well secede under a strict democracy.
    Outside of the 4 most populous states the rest of the country would in effect be like colonies ordered around by them.

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    If not for the EC, states with the biggest cities and densest populations would win every national election. Places like Montana and Utah may as well secede under a strict democracy.
    Yeah the states elect the president, not the population. We are the United States of America, not the United States of California and New York.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    So any third-party candidate, like Libertarian, Green, Socialist, American Independent - they're all working against democracy and for Russia?
    Only if they cause a Democrat to lose.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    If not for the EC, states with the biggest cities and densest populations would win every national election. Places like Montana and Utah may as well secede under a strict democracy.
    California would win every election, then they'd force us to poop on our streets and sidewalks!


    (Seriously, the gas compression company I was with for 10 years refused to do business in California, because they have wacky laws that -- if any business has a footprint in California, ALL of that business's locations are subject to California's labor laws --- it's downright nutty)

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    Places like Montana and Utah may as well secede under a strict democracy.
    Yep...

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    To be fair, Trump is correct to say that the electoral college is a disaster for democracy, but that's by design. Our Founding Fathers didn't want a president who was chosen by popular vote because that would give too much power to the most populous states.
    If not for the EC, states with the biggest cities and densest populations would win every national election. Places like Montana and Utah may as well secede under a strict democracy.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    AND, our Founding Fathers didn't set up a democracy.
    They were dead set against it.

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by JimL View Post
    As far as they're concerned, yes. Whatever keeps their fellow dictator in office. Tulsi Gabbard doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected, so by running her only purpose could be to get the lawless, treasonous, wannabe dictator re-elected.
    So any third-party candidate, like Libertarian, Green, Socialist, American Independent - they're all working against democracy and for Russia? Because that's where your logic ultimately takes you.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by whag View Post
    Oops...

    “The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.”

    — Donald Trump

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...outputType=amp

    What you think he meant by “disaster,” I wonder?
    It is indeed incredibly undemocratic. Just like each state getting two Senators regardless of population.

    But that is exactly why the Founding Fathers designed it that way. They wanted a Republic, not a Democracy.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    To be fair, Trump is correct to say that the electoral college is a disaster for democracy, but that's by design. Our Founding Fathers didn't want a president who was chosen by popular vote because that would give too much power to the most populous states.
    AND, our Founding Fathers didn't set up a democracy.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You have reason to believe he didn't know this?
    To be fair, Trump is correct to say that the electoral college is a disaster for democracy, but that's by design. Our Founding Fathers didn't want a president who was chosen by popular vote because that would give too much power to the most populous states.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by whag View Post
    It clearly exists to solve the problem of voting population disparity between states. Trump didn’t know this how?
    You have reason to believe he didn't know this?

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  • whag
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Regardless of who thinks what about the EC, it's our current method for the election of POTUS. Both sides know this. Both sides play the game with those rules in mind.
    It clearly exists to solve the problem of voting population disparity between states. Trump didn’t know this how?

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  • whag
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    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Projection is not a good look, whag.
    Great point. A huge fraction of Trump’s tweets are blatant projections.

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