MSNBC Guest Advises: 'Destroy' Most Whites Over Their Supporting Trump

[KingsGambit]

Trump has never specifically told anyone to commit violence, yet the left continues to act like he has.

You don't remember as a candidate when he promised to pay bail for supporters who roughed up protestors?

[mossrose]

Your asking of this of someone who repeatedly claims that the Mueller Report declares Trump colluded with the Russians.

I know.

[mossrose]

I really don't think he was signalling anybody to go out to protests (that was part of his schpiel) and literally beat people.

Unless they're wearing MAGA hats, of course.

[seer]

seer, I've seen this "what if" with a number of your posts, and I find it a bit disconcerting. I understand your desire for fairness, it's something I desire as well, but you seem to go one step further by implying that if the other side does something wrong, then it's only fair for your side to do so as well. It may be the case that most or all people would take the phrase "beat black people at the polls," in the absolute worst light possible, but that doesn't mean, then, that it's right to take "beat white people at the polls" in the worst possible light. The worst light possible in this context is that the guy is a racist, but not that he's espousing actual physical violence.

No, I don't think it is fair for my side to do it but I'm tried of the hypocrisy of the left who think that they are our betters, while prompting the virtues of tolerance and diversity that they NEVER follow.

[rogue06]

Did you actually read the article? He is talking about white people all through his tirade! How in the world can you say he's not talking about white people?

And I am not sure he's only speaking about beating people st the polls. And if I'm not sure, you can bet that people of colour will also take it to have a physical meaning.

How can you not decry this man's words as anything but racist?

Your asking of this of someone who repeatedly claims that the Mueller Report declares Trump colluded with the Russians.

[rogue06]

That would be racist if Trump had said it.

It would definitely be branded as racist if a white person said that about blacks

[Cow Poke]

I think he can be reasonably interpreted to mean "beat/destroy them at the polls," and I think we should be charitable if possible.

I really don't think he was signalling anybody to go out to protests (that was part of his schpiel) and literally beat people. But you can't have it both ways - when Trump says something really stupid, that's a dog whistle for white supremacists to go on a killing spree, so EVERYBODY needs to tone down the rhetoric, including this guy.

[Cow Poke]

It was very clear to me that he was referring to beating white Trump supporters at the polls, and through protest, and the fact that the host did clarify what he was saying, and he was quick to agree should be all that's needed.

The host 'deleted' his reference to protests. That was part of his rant.

If Trump were to say something similar about immigrants, and a host clarified that he was speaking of illegal immigrants, and he quickly agreed with that host, people here would be giving him the benefit of the doubt. I don't see any reason not to also give this guy a benefit of the doubt. The main real thing I thought was wonky about his diatribe was his whole "the majority of white people in this country are not a majority of the country," which is simply factually inaccurate. Whites make up something like 72% of the population, and if we're talking white non-Hispanic/Latinos then it's still around 61%.

He was on an angry rant - that often results in dumb mistakes.

Edit: To clarify, the guy may be a racist (I don't know), but I'm specifically pointing out that I don't believe he was referring to physical violence when he referred to "beating" white people at the polls and through protest.

Sure, but with all this hysteria about "sending messages", and people doing mass killings because of things Trump says, this guy needs to reign in his anger a bit.

Edit: To clarify, Trump can really be a total ass and I'm not defending him in any way, shape or form.

[Adrift]

What if we talked about beating black Hillary supporters at the polls - how do you think that would go over?

I'm not sure I understand your question. As contentious as politics are in this country, probably many people would take it in the most uncharitable light as possible, and assume that it was espousing violence against black people. But the intent is obviously not to commit violence, it's to outvote at the polls.


seer, I've seen this "what if" with a number of your posts, and I find it a bit disconcerting. I understand your desire for fairness, it's something I desire as well, but you seem to go one step further by implying that if the other side does something wrong, then it's only fair for your side to do so as well. It may be the case that most or all people would take the phrase "beat black people at the polls," in the absolute worst light possible, but that doesn't mean, then, that it's right to take "beat white people at the polls" in the worst possible light. The worst light possible in this context is that the guy is a racist, but not that he's espousing actual physical violence.

[Bill the Cat]

I think he can be reasonably interpreted to mean "beat/destroy them at the polls," and I think we should be charitable if possible.

But WE are reasonable people for the most part. Not everyone out there is, and if the left were consistent, they would condemn this as inciting violence. Trump has never specifically told anyone to commit violence, yet the left continues to act like he has.

[seer]

It was very clear to me that he was referring to beating white Trump supporters at the polls...

What if we talked about beating black Hillary supporters at the polls - how do you think that would go over?

[Zymologist]

I think he can be reasonably interpreted to mean "beat/destroy them at the polls," and I think we should be charitable if possible.

[Adrift]

Watch the video, Jim - at 2 minutes, he says "go to the polls, go to the protests...." when he was talking about "beat them". Watch his body language, listen to his tone of voice. He's an angry black man.

You don't communicate it to them -- you beat them. Beat them. They are not a majority of this country. The majority of white people in this country are not a majority of the country. And all the people who are not fooled by this need to come together, go to the polls, go to the protests, do whatever you have to do. You do not negotiate with these people -- you destroy them.

And he IS talking about white people, you dingbat!

Now, the host did try to clarify it FOR him by saying "by the way, the black man said beat them meaning in a poll, in a, uh, election, so don't come for the black man, he said beat them in a poll".

Again, what he actually said... "you don't communicate it to them, you beat them, you beat them.... go to the polls, go to the protests, do whatever you have to do, you do not negotiate with these people, you BEAT them".

It was very clear to me that he was referring to beating white Trump supporters at the polls, and through protest, and the fact that the host did clarify what he was saying, and he was quick to agree should be all that's needed. If Trump were to say something similar about immigrants, and a host clarified that he was speaking of illegal immigrants, and he quickly agreed with that host, people here would be giving him the benefit of the doubt. I don't see any reason not to also give this guy a benefit of the doubt. The main real thing I thought was wonky about his diatribe was his whole "the majority of white people in this country are not a majority of the country," which is simply factually inaccurate. Whites make up something like 72% of the population, and if we're talking white non-Hispanic/Latinos then it's still around 61%.

Edit: To clarify, the guy may be a racist (I don't know), but I'm specifically pointing out that I don't believe he was referring to physical violence when he referred to "beating" white people at the polls and through protest.

[Cow Poke]

Did you actually read the article? He is talking about white people all through his tirade! How in the world can you say he's not talking about white people?

And I am not sure he's only speaking about beating people st the polls. And if I'm not sure, you can bet that people of colour will also take it to have a physical meaning.

How can you not decry this man's words as anything but racist?

Because Jim has been trained to think the exact same way, and marches to the drum of his puppetmasters, completely taken in by their racist rhetoric.

[mossrose]

He's right, you destroy them politically, you destroy them at the polls. And he's not talking about white people per se, although I'm sure you read it that way.

Did you actually read the article? He is talking about white people all through his tirade! How in the world can you say he's not talking about white people?

And I am not sure he's only speaking about beating people st the polls. And if I'm not sure, you can bet that people of colour will also take it to have a physical meaning.

How can you not decry this man's words as anything but racist?