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Will The Global Warming Hysterics Never Tire Of Being Wrong?

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  • Originally posted by seer View Post
    I have faith in the human ability to adapt and overcome. The fact is there will be positives and negatives to a warmer planet, and we don't know which will out weigh which.
    Weakest part of case theirs is future prediction. Measurement of past, also present (should be!!!) mostly straightforward, prediction is billions times harder.

    '97% consensus on AGW', even if so consensus is only that earth is warming, also humans caused it. No science consensus on 'sky is falling, we must do something!!!!' Yuge deception here, bait and switch.
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    • Originally posted by seer View Post
      I have faith in the human ability to adapt and overcome.
      Not when you have a president who denies that a problem exists and claims that climate change is a hoax. And withdrew from the Paris Agreement.

      The fact is there will be positives and negatives to a warmer planet, and we don't know which will out weigh which.
      Well we do. "Global climate change has already had observable effects on the environment. Glaciers have shrunk, ice on rivers and lakes is breaking up earlier, plant and animal ranges have shifted and trees are flowering sooner. Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring: loss of sea ice, accelerated sea level rise and longer, more intense heat waves..."

      https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

      It is not overall good for the planet, quite the reverse.
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      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
        Not when you have a president who denies that a problem exists and claims that climate change is a hoax. And withdrew from the Paris Agreement.
        No, I mean we can deal with the effects. Nothing is going to stop it.



        Well we do. "Global climate change has already had observable effects on the environment. Glaciers have shrunk, ice on rivers and lakes is breaking up earlier, plant and animal ranges have shifted and trees are flowering sooner. Effects that scientists had predicted in the past would result from global climate change are now occurring: loss of sea ice, accelerated sea level rise and longer, more intense heat waves..."

        https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

        It is not overall good for the planet, quite the reverse.

        Actually there are positive effects of a warmer planet. Which I linked a while back. And here is another one: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-will-be-a-go/
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        • Originally posted by seer View Post
          No, I mean we can deal with the effects. Nothing is going to stop it.
          The effects of climate change can be mitigated, certainly. But not when you have a president who denies that a problem even exists and claims that climate change is a hoax.

          Actually there are positive effects of a warmer planet. Which I linked a while back. And here is another one: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-will-be-a-go/
          Even if this overly optimistic assessment from a right-wing newspaper is correct, it will need an internationally coordinated program such as that devised by the Paris Agreement to be of benefit. And this is what Trump withdrew from.
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          • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
            Even if this overly optimistic assessment from a right-wing newspaper is correct, it will need an internationally coordinated program such as that devised by the Paris Agreement to be of benefit. And this is what Trump withdrew from.

            Bjørn Lomborg is not a right wing nut. And you guys aren't doing so good either:


            Australia not on track to hit Paris emissions goals, as UN warns global efforts must increase

            https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/...paris/10554058
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            • Originally posted by seer View Post
              Bjørn Lomborg is not a right wing nut. And you guys aren't doing so good either:


              Australia not on track to hit Paris emissions goals, as UN warns global efforts must increase

              https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/...paris/10554058
              Okay, Australia is not up to snuff, lets just say to hell with the planet!

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              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                Okay, Australia is not up to snuff, lets just say to hell with the planet!
                The point is Jim they know this is not that easy and can destroy their economy if not done right. Listen we are building windmills and solar farms all across this country (evil conservative Texas being in the lead). But the left hates natural gas which is much much cleaner and nuclear which will go a long way to solving the problem.
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                • Originally posted by seer View Post
                  The point is Jim they know this is not that easy and can destroy their economy if not done right. Listen we are building windmills and solar farms all across this country (evil conservative Texas being in the lead). But the left hates natural gas which is much much cleaner and nuclear which will go a long way to solving the problem.
                  *emphasis mine
                  And wiping out bird species and creating new and interesting problems for land fills in the process!
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                  • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                    *emphasis mine
                    And wiping out bird species and creating new and interesting problems for land fills in the process!
                    Yes there are always trade offs...
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                    • Originally posted by seer View Post
                      The point is Jim they know this is not that easy and can destroy their economy if not done right. Listen we are building windmills and solar farms all across this country (evil conservative Texas being in the lead). But the left hates natural gas which is much much cleaner and nuclear which will go a long way to solving the problem.
                      First your monolithic notion of "the left" is a comic book epithet for anyone who disagrees with your fundie agenda. I have a friend who has been liberal Dem all his life as has his brother a who is on the Nuc regulatory commission .They are both pro nuc.

                      Natural gas is a fossil fuel and it is a green house gas, It does solve some problems of coal but ultimately it is still caysung goal warning,

                      Those who make wind energy support the Paris accords and hate Trump. building lots wind mills and continuing to promote coal is not helping,
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                      • Originally posted by seer View Post
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                        Australia not on track to hit Paris emissions goals, as UN warns global efforts must increase
                        Nevertheless, Australia remains in the Paris Agreement and supports its goals. Trump does neither. He refers to 'global warming' as a hoax and has made eliminating federal environmental regulations a priority. His administration, with help from Republicans in Congress, has targeted environmental rules it sees as burdensome to the fossil fuel industry and other big businesses.
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                        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          Nevertheless, Australia remains in the Paris Agreement and supports its goals. Trump does neither. He refers to 'global warming' as a hoax and has made eliminating federal environmental regulations a priority. His administration, with help from Republicans in Congress, has targeted environmental rules it sees as burdensome to the fossil fuel industry and other big businesses.
                          Yet we are still building wind mills and solar farms at a rapid rate.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • Originally posted by Tassoroan View Post
                            Trump ... refers to 'global warming' as a hoax...
                            And he's right.

                            You know, people would be less suspicious of the "global warming" narrative if the solution proposed by liberals wasn't to simply check off every box on the socialist/globalist social engineering wishlist.
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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              And he's right.

                              You know, people would be less suspicious of the "global warming" narrative if the solution proposed by liberals wasn't to simply check off every box on the socialist/globalist social engineering wishlist.
                              Exactly...
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                              • Originally posted by seer View Post
                                Exactly...
                                That's just the pro hoaxer's new excuse for their willingness to destroy the planet for their children and grandchildren. The point is to rid ourselves of fossill fuels in order to stop the rising temperatures which will be devastating to the future if allowed to continue and has nothing to do with politics. The only ones using politics is the pro destroy the planet people.

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