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Argument against "Kill the fetus": Libertarian Walter Block
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou seem to put the blame of the actions on the father onto the child and thinking that if the father is a rapist then the baby somehow doesn't deserve to live. My scenario was the same. So I guess we can go around and kill the children of any criminal with impunity, eh?If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou seem to put the blame of the actions on the father onto the child and thinking that if the father is a rapist then the baby somehow doesn't deserve to live. My scenario was the same. So I guess we can go around and kill the children of any criminal with impunity, eh?“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI am just challenging the assumption that there is an easy answer to the rape situation and you will not understand the issues until you put yourself in the victim’s situation."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostLiberals, most of whom are pseudo-sociopaths with no soul or genuine empathy like to imagine everybody else is just like them, so they need to explicitly prod you to "put yourself in the victim's situation" because any strong stance someone might take that is in contradiction to progressive doctrine can only come about from lack of humanity, like it does for them.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThat’s just avoiding the question. Strong opinions are so much bluster until they are tested in a real situation. For that reason, if it’s not my problem, I prefer to see it tackled by those whose problem it is and not by pundits for political and especially not religious reasons.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThen stop giving us your unwanted opinions, you hypocrite.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThat’s just avoiding the question."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIf you had been following the discussion a bit closer you would see that I had not given my opinion. Consequently I cannot be hypocritical on this issue. What I am explaining to you is that none of us are qualified to judge the matter.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostAlso, (in almost every case), the fetus was an invited guest.The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu
[T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm more and more thinking that my attempt in my earlier post to try to reason with Block's logic on his own terms is likely to fail.The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu
[T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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Originally posted by Truthseeker View PostPerhaps for the sake of my understanding you should explain.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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