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    In the first place, it's really odd that a group dedicated to protecting, defending and extending abortion could be called "reproductive rights".

    They already have the right to reproduce - it's the right to terminate life without restriction for which they fight.

    And it's gone WAY beyond "safe, legal and rare" with the new slogan being "Protect - Defend - Extend".

    The campaign seeks to remove existing restrictions on abortion, with the PDF linked outlining some of these moves on page 21.

    REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION & CODIFYING THE RIGHT TO ABORTION

    More than a dozen states introduced legislation in 2018 to
    repeal abortion restrictions. One example is the Virginia General
    Assembly, which introduced both a House and Senate version
    of the Whole Woman’s Health Act. These companion bills repeal
    unconstitutional abortion restrictions and codify the legal right to
    abortion in state law.

    REMOVING RESTRICTIONS

    Missouri and Kentucky introduced legislation to repeal their mandatory delay
    requirements, allowing patients to receive abortion care more quickly.
    Arizona introduced a bill to repeal the state’s ban on using telemedicine to
    administer abortions, and lawmakers in Maine attempted to widen the scope of
    health care professionals allowed to perform abortions.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

  • #2
    Too bad none of them realise women already have the right to not get pregnant in the first place.
    Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
      Too bad none of them realise women already have the right to not get pregnant in the first place.
      I don't think we should use this argument against abortion because it backs us into a serious corner in the case of rape.
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
        I don't think we should use this argument against abortion because it backs us into a serious corner in the case of rape.
        Rape accounts for a very tiny percentage of all abortions. Statistics show that most women who have abortions are using it as birth control. They either didn't use contraceptives at all, or didn't use it consistently or properly.
        Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          In the first place, it's really odd that a group dedicated to protecting, defending and extending abortion could be called "reproductive rights".

          They already have the right to reproduce - it's the right to terminate life without restriction for which they fight.

          And it's gone WAY beyond "safe, legal and rare" with the new slogan being "Protect - Defend - Extend".

          The campaign seeks to remove existing restrictions on abortion, with the PDF linked outlining some of these moves on page 21.

          REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION & CODIFYING THE RIGHT TO ABORTION

          More than a dozen states introduced legislation in 2018 to
          repeal abortion restrictions. One example is the Virginia General
          Assembly, which introduced both a House and Senate version
          of the Whole Woman’s Health Act. These companion bills repeal
          unconstitutional abortion restrictions and codify the legal right to
          abortion in state law.

          REMOVING RESTRICTIONS

          Missouri and Kentucky introduced legislation to repeal their mandatory delay
          requirements, allowing patients to receive abortion care more quickly.
          Arizona introduced a bill to repeal the state’s ban on using telemedicine to
          administer abortions, and lawmakers in Maine attempted to widen the scope of
          health care professionals allowed to perform abortions.
          "Abortion care."

          What's next? Euthanasia treatment?

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
            Rape accounts for a very tiny percentage of all abortions. Statistics show that most women who have abortions are using it as birth control. They either didn't use contraceptives at all, or didn't use it consistently or properly.
            Abortion will always be needed, so long as there are men who rape, so long as contraception remains imperfect, so long as 11-year-old girls can become pregnant,
            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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            • #7
              I love how liberals try to present an air of tolerance and compassion when talking about possibly the most horrific procedure ever invented by the medical profession: the murder of innocent human life before it even has the chance to take a single breath.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                "Abortion care."

                What's next? Euthanasia treatment?
                The liberals are, indeed, the "culture of death" party.
                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  In the first place, it's really odd that a group dedicated to protecting, defending and extending abortion could be called "reproductive rights".

                  They already have the right to reproduce - it's the right to terminate life without restriction for which they fight.

                  And it's gone WAY beyond "safe, legal and rare" with the new slogan being "Protect - Defend - Extend".

                  The campaign seeks to remove existing restrictions on abortion, with the PDF linked outlining some of these moves on page 21.

                  REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION & CODIFYING THE RIGHT TO ABORTION

                  More than a dozen states introduced legislation in 2018 to
                  repeal abortion restrictions. One example is the Virginia General
                  Assembly, which introduced both a House and Senate version
                  of the Whole Woman’s Health Act. These companion bills repeal
                  unconstitutional abortion restrictions and codify the legal right to
                  abortion in state law.

                  REMOVING RESTRICTIONS

                  Missouri and Kentucky introduced legislation to repeal their mandatory delay
                  requirements, allowing patients to receive abortion care more quickly.
                  Arizona introduced a bill to repeal the state’s ban on using telemedicine to
                  administer abortions, and lawmakers in Maine attempted to widen the scope of
                  health care professionals allowed to perform abortions.
                  For a Christian doesn't it boil down to when life begins and if you believe life begins at conception then abortion is murder of a child?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
                    For a Christian doesn't it boil down to when life begins and if you believe life begins at conception then abortion is murder of a child?
                    Apparently, the definition of "Christian" is wide open, and even includes a certain Mayor who defends abortion with no limitation whatsoever.
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      Abortion will always be needed, so long as there are men who rape, so long as contraception remains imperfect, so long as 11-year-old girls can become pregnant,
                      So why aren't you abortionists only asking for legal abortions in the case of rape? Or in the case where the mother's health was in danger?

                      Contraceptives are 99% effective if used as directed.

                      so if those were the only times an abortion was needed, there would only be a handful of abortions per year. Not millions.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        So why aren't you abortionists only asking for legal abortions in the case of rape?
                        So why aren't you anti-abortionists allowing legal abortions in the case of rape? In Alabama — lawmakers have even banned abortion for rape victims AND rapists’ parental rights are protected.

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.8caa4bc2f8a6

                        Or in the case where the mother's health was in danger?
                        The mother's health will certainly be in danger with a return of coat-hanger DIY abortions.

                        Contraceptives are 99% effective if used as directed.
                        So why closed Planned Parenthood if you want to ensure that contraception instructions are properly understood.

                        so if those were the only times an abortion was needed, there would only be a handful of abortions per year. Not millions.
                        This is the woman's decision, not ours. In fact the vast majority of abortions occur in the first trimester before the fetus is viable.
                        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          So why aren't you anti-abortionists allowing legal abortions in the case of rape? In Alabama — lawmakers have even banned abortion for rape victims AND rapists’ parental rights are protected.

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.8caa4bc2f8a6



                          The mother's health will certainly be in danger with a return of coat-hanger DIY abortions.



                          So why closed Planned Parenthood if you want to ensure that contraception instructions are properly understood.



                          This is the woman's decision, not ours. In fact the vast majority of abortions occur in the first trimester before the fetus is viable.
                          You didn't answer my question.

                          If abortion is only needed in the case of rape or health why aren't you abortionists only asking for legal abortions in the case of rape? Or in the case where the mother's health was in danger?

                          Contraceptives are 99% effective if used as directed.

                          so if those were the only times an abortion was needed, there would only be a handful of abortions per year. Not millions.

                          Hmm?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            You didn't answer my question.

                            If abortion is only needed in the case of rape or health why aren't you abortionists only asking for legal abortions in the case of rape? Or in the case where the mother's health was in danger?
                            Certainly, in those instances. So, why aren't you anti-abortionists allowing legal abortions in the case of rape? In Alabama — lawmakers have even banned abortion for rape victims AND rapists’ parental rights are protected.

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.85b1ad37908e

                            But abortion is also acceptable before fetal viability if the woman so chooses. This is when the vast majority of abortions occur. So, no problem.
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                              In Alabama — lawmakers have even banned abortion for rape victims AND rapists’ parental rights are protected.

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.85b1ad37908e
                              The highlighted portion is incorrect as you seem to imply that a rapist's parental rights are being explicitly protected by the law, but according to your source, that's not true:

                              "Last month, Alabama lawmakers considered a bill that addressed ending parental rights in cases of rape that result in conception, but the legislature removed that language, limiting the law to cases in which people sexually assault their children. State Sen. Vivian Figures (D) and other lawmakers believed the language that was removed could have excluded boys who were assaulted, because they cannot get pregnant. Figures said she didn’t know Alabama lacked a statute preventing rapists from gaining custody of their offspring but told The Washington Post that she now plans to introduce a bill in the next legislative session."
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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