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  • All so obvious, once it has been pointed out.
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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    • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
      I have no idea what that sentence means, so I have no way to respond. Can you clarify?



      I'll leave this to you.
      Not all groups liberals are trying to protect from the majority are intrinsic characteristics and modern liberal ideology with the idea you can merely identify as whatever group you want kind of defeats this principle.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
        Not all groups liberals are trying to protect from the majority are intrinsic characteristics and modern liberal ideology with the idea you can merely identify as whatever group you want kind of defeats this principle.
        Well - we can identify with whatever group we want in many domains - the Elks, the Boy Scouts, religions, etc. And then there are groups were are simply part of - races, ethnicities, age, genus species, etc. I'm going to assume your reference, however, is to gender (given the recent focus on the T in LGBTQ. There things become muddied. I don't think we simply randomly choose our gender. But I do now that the human person is a complex organism combining mind (sentience) and body. We don't know a great deal about the mind, but we do know that there is some degree of gender-based dimorphism between the male and female brains. We certainly have instances of the body itself being intersex, with a confusing combination of male and female physical traits. So it does not seem to me to be a stretch that the brain can also have this blend. If this is all true, then why is it not possible that a brain that has predominantly female traits can sometimes be in a body with predominantly male ones, or the reverse.

        Bottom line, I try not to tell people who and what they are, and let them tell me instead. Whoever and whatever they are, I believe we are all equal under the law, and equal in value as human persons, and should be treated as such. On this topic, I definitely lean towards "those nasty liberals."
        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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        • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
          Obviously you're blowing smoke, or you wouldn't have a problem identifying even one place where this has happened.

          Consider that the last word
          I am just using your own tactics Carp. Whenever I ask you to support your claims you just say "I already answered that" and "you can have the last word" even though you never do.



          Although in this case I did already tell you why you don't know anything about the electoral college and government. Go find it.

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          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            I am just using your own tactics Carp. Whenever I ask you to support your claims you just say "I already answered that" and "you can have the last word" even though you never do.
            So I'm not sure what "never do" refers to. The "last word" or the "already answered." If the latter, I actually have about a 50% success rate in "last word" and actually doing it. You can check if you wish. But I acknowledge it could be better. If it's the former, I use "I already answered that" only after I have posted a response to the same item multiple times. They are easily found.

            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Although in this case I did already tell you why you don't know anything about the electoral college and government. Go find it.
            I have gone looking - twice now. What you claim is there does not exist, AFAICT. If anyone else can find it, please feel free to link it for me. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you're blowing smoke.
            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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            • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
              So I'm not sure what "never do" refers to. The "last word" or the "already answered." If the latter, I actually have about a 50% success rate in "last word" and actually doing it. You can check if you wish. But I acknowledge it could be better. If it's the former, I use "I already answered that" only after I have posted a response to the same item multiple times. They are easily found.



              I have gone looking - twice now. What you claim is there does not exist, AFAICT. If anyone else can find it, please feel free to link it for me. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you're blowing smoke.
              You can believe what you want carp.

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              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                You can believe what you want carp.
                I believe what the evidence shows me, Sparko. Always have. It's why I'm atheist. What the evidence shows me, right now, is a pattern of behavior. When challenged on something you cannot show, you (and a few others here) slip into these childish "I'm rubber you're glue" games. They are pretty obvious to anyone reading.

                I'll leave the last word on this topic to you. This is getting more than a little tedious, and I do not have the patience to wait for you to engage like an adult. I'm being trolled - and I should not have taken the bait.
                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                  I believe what the evidence shows me, Sparko. Always have. It's why I'm atheist. What the evidence shows me, right now, is a pattern of behavior. When challenged on something you cannot show, you (and a few others here) slip into these childish "I'm rubber you're glue" games. They are pretty obvious to anyone reading.

                  I'll leave the last word on this topic to you. This is getting more than a little tedious, and I do not have the patience to wait for you to engage like an adult. I'm being trolled - and I should not have taken the bait.
                  I guess you don't like being treated the way you treat others.

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                  • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                    Well - we can identify with whatever group we want in many domains - the Elks, the Boy Scouts, religions, etc. And then there are groups were are simply part of - races, ethnicities, age, genus species, etc. I'm going to assume your reference, however, is to gender (given the recent focus on the T in LGBTQ. There things become muddied. I don't think we simply randomly choose our gender. But I do now that the human person is a complex organism combining mind (sentience) and body. We don't know a great deal about the mind, but we do know that there is some degree of gender-based dimorphism between the male and female brains. We certainly have instances of the body itself being intersex, with a confusing combination of male and female physical traits. So it does not seem to me to be a stretch that the brain can also have this blend. If this is all true, then why is it not possible that a brain that has predominantly female traits can sometimes be in a body with predominantly male ones, or the reverse.

                    Bottom line, I try not to tell people who and what they are, and let them tell me instead. Whoever and whatever they are, I believe we are all equal under the law, and equal in value as human persons, and should be treated as such. On this topic, I definitely lean towards "those nasty liberals."
                    There’s that pretzel logic I talk about where you try to argue for two different positions and don’t see the contradiction between the two. Either there’s intrinsic characters that warrant protection from the majority or it’s all a social construct that is totally meaningless. You can’t have it both ways, so choose your poison.
                    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                      There’s that pretzel logic I talk about where you try to argue for two different positions and don’t see the contradiction between the two.
                      This appears to be the new "mantra" of the usual cabal. Repeating it over and over again doesn't actually make it true...

                      Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                      Either there’s intrinsic characters that warrant protection from the majority or it’s all a social construct that is totally meaningless. You can’t have it both ways, so choose your poison.
                      You create a false dichotomy, so there is nothing to respond to. The world is not always as black/white as you would (apparently) like it to be. There are places where there are shades of gray we have to live with.
                      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        I guess you don't like being treated the way you treat others.
                        The more you guys change, the more you stay the same, I guess.

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                        • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                          This appears to be the new "mantra" of the usual cabal.
                          Am I in the cabal?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                            This appears to be the new "mantra" of the usual cabal. Repeating it over and over again doesn't actually make it true...
                            And flat ignoring doublespeak doesn’t make it go away.

                            You create a false dichotomy, so there is nothing to respond to. The world is not always as black/white as you would (apparently) like it to be. There are places where there are shades of gray we have to live with.
                            It’s not at all and based upon the logic you support and are incapable of seeing because you refuse to see it. The reality is that modern liberals are the ones saying you can identify as you want while trying to also argue that some traits are ingrained and can’t change. You can’t have it both ways. Either they exist and need protected or don’t.
                            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Am I in the cabal?
                              I see you as being more of a junta or maybe coterie kinda guy.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                I see you as being more of a junta or maybe coterie kinda guy.
                                Ah... I miss the good old days when Da Blonde called us the Axis of Evil.

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