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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOne of the very few things at which Jimmy excels is attempting to drag a thread off topic. He's managing to do that here, just as Adrift prophesied*.
The issue is that Buttigieg is portrayed as a "Practicing Christian" in spite of the fact that he totally ignores (not interprets) scripture that condemns his lifestyle.Last edited by JimL; 05-18-2019, 07:03 AM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOnly if Buttigieg sees homosexuality as sin and to be resisted. He clearly does not.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThis began with you claiming that Mayor Pete and others just ignore those parts of the bible they don't agree with.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou remained silent, or in other words ignored that part of the bible you didn't agree with. Others admitted to it but made excuses for it such as it was a different time and culture as if that would have anything at all to do with a Gods moral nature. Perhaps you think it a moral good and that we should still stone people to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath!1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostThere is more than enough evidence to show the probability of these being maximum penalties, not mandatory penalties. And that is even before the variations introduced with the New Covenant are considered. The law is inextricably a component of the covenant - once the Old Covenant became old, and the New Covenant was instituted, the old laws don't apply. Under the new covenant, the maximum penalty that can be imposed is excommunication - aka shunning, banishment, exile.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe point remains the same. The Christian god commanded the inhumane, immoral, stoning and burning to death of human beings which christians tend to ignore. The only reason for the New Covenant is because human beings realized the Old Covenant to be inhumane.
A) The Old Covenant (and associated laws) was between God and the Jews
2) I am not a Jew
3) The NEW Covenant is in place, and we are no longer "under the law"
D) We are called CHRIST-ians because we are CHRIST followers, not MOSES AND THE LAW followers
Your attempt to derail the thread is duly noted.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThis began with you claiming that Mayor Pete and others just ignore those parts of the bible they don't agree with.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy argument was that the interpretation of scripture varies e.g. the likes of Buttigieg, as a practicing Christian, interprets scripture in such a way that homosexuality is OK with a loving God.
The argument is so stupid that Reverend Tassman is doing the Kakuki Boogie trying to hide from it:
Originally posted by Tassman View PostBur, what’s “in question” is not my argument. The argument is merely that practicing Christians disagree among themselves as to what is acceptable behavior for Christians.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe point remains the same. The Christian god commanded the inhumane, immoral, stoning and burning to death of human beings which christians tend to ignore. The only reason for the New Covenant is because human beings realized the Old Covenant to be inhumane.
Humans don't know what alternatives were available, and cannot predict with any accuracy the courses that history might follow when this or that is or is not done. When the fact that God is not WILLING that any should die is considered, his commands that some (or even a huge number) die would indicate a strong impetus.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOnly if Buttigieg sees homosexuality as sin and to be resisted. He clearly does not.
And guess what. Regardless of what he sees the adulterer, fornicator or homosexual who is not fighting temptation is indeed sinning.Last edited by rogue06; 05-18-2019, 10:59 AM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOnly if Buttigieg sees homosexuality as sin and to be resisted. He clearly does not.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWrong - it began with Reverend Tassman claiming Butigieg had a different interpretation.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostThere is more than enough evidence to show the probability of these being maximum penalties, not mandatory penalties. And that is even before the variations introduced with the New Covenant are considered. The law is inextricably a component of the covenant - once the Old Covenant became old, and the New Covenant was instituted, the old laws don't apply. Under the new covenant, the maximum penalty that can be imposed is excommunication - aka shunning, banishment, exile.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat you're doing is demonstrating your profound ignorance of the Bible.
A) The Old Covenant (and associated laws) was between God and the Jews
2) I am not a Jew
3) The NEW Covenant is in place, and we are no longer "under the law"
D) We are called CHRIST-ians because we are CHRIST followers, not MOSES AND THE LAW followers
Your attempt to derail the thread is duly noted.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWrong. With me it began with you saying Butigieg ignored those parts of the bible he didn't agree with.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy argument was that the interpretation of scripture varies e.g. the likes of Buttigieg, as a practicing Christian, interprets scripture in such a way that homosexuality is OK with a loving God.
My reply was that, so do you.
2) you're about to double down on your profound ignorance of theology.
Or do you believe it moral to stone human beings to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Jesus apparently disagreed with it, and his reasoning had nothing to do with the times, the place, or the culture. Problem is that Jesus and YHWH are said to be one and the same god.
Jimmy, when it comes to the Bible, you're even dumber than you are about the legal system. It's astonishing!Last edited by Cow Poke; 05-18-2019, 04:42 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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