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Mayor Pete Attacks Trump's Faith...
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI don't know too many Christians who say their sin is a moral good, or that God created them to sin as he did.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHe may SINCERELY BELIEVE God made him a homosexual -- he's entitled to that -- but he'd be sincerely wrong. He is living in open defiance of Christian teachings, and is unrepentant.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo the Christian doesn't get to call things like rape, murder, adultery, lying, etc... morally wrong?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHe may SINCERELY BELIEVE God made him a homosexual -- he's entitled to that -- but he'd be sincerely wrong. He is living in open defiance of Christian teachings, and is unrepentant.Last edited by Charles; 04-10-2019, 01:28 PM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI think you are moving a little bit closer to a fair statement.
However, your insistence that he is unrepentant seems to imply that his belief that God made him a homosexual is not his sincere belief.
If he sincerely believed it he simply cannot repent because he does not believe it is wrong.
So you need to make up your mind.
You cannot have it both ways.
While you may even be right that he is "living in open defiance of Christian teachings" that does not imply that he is doing so knowingly.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI think you are moving a little bit closer to a fair statement. However, your insistence that he is unrepentant seems to imply that his belief that God made him a homosexual is not his sincere belief. If he sincerely believed it he simply cannot repent because he does not believe it is wrong. So you need to make up your mind. You cannot have it both ways. While you may even be right that he is "living in open defiance of Christian teachings" that does not imply that he is doing so knowingly.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI think you are moving a little bit closer to a fair statement. However, your insistence that he is unrepentant seems to imply that his belief that God made him a homosexual is not his sincere belief. If he sincerely believed it he simply cannot repent because he does not believe it is wrong. So you need to make up your mind. You cannot have it both ways. While you may even be right that he is "living in open defiance of Christian teachings" that does not imply that he is doing so knowingly.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThat simply does not follow from what I said. What I encourage CP to be reluctant on is to assume that this person knowingly calls what is wrong right. I see no need to assume that. Disagreeing and insisting that is is wrong is something rather different from that.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostPete.
https://www.registercitizen.com/news...4-13602400.phpAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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I can see why Pete Buttigieg might be regarded as the country’s best Christian. No doubt, his hope for a revival of the religious left will have God’s blessing particularly as He has watched the religious right fall well short of a godly standard what with their rooting for Trump an’ all.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI can see why Pete Buttigieg might be regarded as the country’s best Christian. No doubt, his hope for a revival of the religious left will have God’s blessing particularly as He has watched the religious right fall well short of a godly standard what with their rooting for Trump an’ all.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI can see why Pete Buttigieg might be regarded as the country’s best Christian. No doubt, his hope for a revival of the religious left will have God’s blessing particularly as He has watched the religious right fall well short of a godly standard what with their rooting for Trump an’ all.
Democrats still haven’t faced their God problem
And it’s a mistake people like Kevin Washo are trying to rectify, though they feel like they’re swimming against the tide. A day before the Democratic National Convention opened here last July, Washo, a Catholic and prominent national Democrat, organized a private Mass led by a Jesuit priest in the conference room of a prestigious law firm in a shimmering Market Street skyscraper.
That imagery is a far cry from the 2012 Democratic convention, when the hall exploded in turmoil as Democrats voted to amend their party’s platform to include the word “God.” The platform initially had dropped previous platform language that referenced God. After an outcry, convention chairman Antonio Villaraigosa returned to the stage to take a floor vote on a motion to reinsert the language.
The floor vote quite clearly failed as Villaraigosa repeated the roll call. Eventually he declared that “the ayes have it,” and loud boos exploded across the arena.
The headlines that came out of that debacle — “Democrats boo God” was a common one — ended up making matters worse for those, like Washo and Chism, who would like to see their party counter the perception of its estrangement from people of faith.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHe may indeed not believe it is wrong. But all he need do is read the bible to find out. As a Christian, he should have already done that, so he has no excuse.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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