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  • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    That is a discussion I am NOT getting into. I don't do "but the bible says" arguments. I find them pointless. And no - I didn't do that with my article. The article was a "maybe he's looking at this passage and using his interpretation of it to drive his choices." I did not claim or say "the bible definitively says X."
    So, a totally made up assumption not based in fact.

    I have not seen this - so it is new information to me. I'd be curious to see the original source for this claim. I find a lot of people read into statements a lot of things that were not intended. Happens here all the time.
    It's been brought up a number of times in this thread. You just dove in without getting up to speed.

    This is speculation. You might be right. You might not be. And see my answer to 2)
    It's common sense. Fasting is a component of prayer - a "force multiplier", in a sense.

    BTW - if you are going to use A), and 2), then the third options should be III or iii. Please get your confusion straight!
    My inconsistency needs to be inconsistent.

    I have not claimed that I know "facts." I have said, "it is also possible it could be X."
    There needs to be some basis in truth or fact for there to be a reasonable supposition. Otherwise, it's just wild speculation, as is the rest of your post.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
      So you give me a link to "conflate," "conflated," and "conflating" to demonstrate that I didn't invent "conflation?"

      However, I did my own checking and it is a perfectly valid word.
      conflation.jpg
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      • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
        That is a discussion I am NOT getting into. I don't do "but the bible says" arguments.
        Then you have no business being in this thread, because how we know what a Christian is is "what the Bible says".

        Scat, SHOO!!!! Away with you. Out Darn Spot!!!!
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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        • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
          I'll leave the last words to y'all.
          Again?


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          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Again?

            Maybe! And that's FINAL!
            "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

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            • Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post
              Maybe! And that's FINAL!
              I finally get it! Carp wants them to be OUR last words, not his!

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              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                I finally get it! Carp wants them to be OUR last words, not his!
                Well, he doesn't do "but the bible says" arguments, and since that's the only way we know what a Christian is....

                (Yet, the article to which he linked was all about "what the Bible says", so .... he's a very confused man)
                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  I finally get it! Carp wants them to be OUR last words, not his!
                  It almost seems that when carpe gives someone the last word he never says he'll stop posting but that when he decides to stop he is giving them permission to continue. Then again, so is the whole you-can-have-the-last-word.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post
                    Maybe! And that's FINAL!
                    You can phone a friend!
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Then you have no business being in this thread, because how we know what a Christian is is "what the Bible says".

                      Scat, SHOO!!!! Away with you. Out Darn Spot!!!!
                      Oh, so you don't believe that homosexuals could at the same time be christian, therefore you don't care what it is that Buttegieg says. It's the bible tells you he is not a christian. So, what do you need to hear it from the horses mouth for? Y'all wouldn't believe him anyway.

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                      • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                        How on earth can you even begin to say that? Do you think Christian-affiliated religions are the only religion in the world? Trump has been attacking the Islamic faith, leveraging it for political gain since he started his campaign - and even before.
                        In this context, yes, Christian-affiliated religions are the only ones that matter.

                        Now, offhand, I'm not aware of Trump "attacking" the Islamic faith or its adherents. In that sense, he's a pretty poor example of a practicing Christian, since Christians know that even the best Muslims are doomed infidels, as are non-Messianic Jews, Messianic Jews who do not believe in the deity of Christ, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and a host of others.

                        ETA: By "best" Muslims, I mean those who are peacefully Islam-ic, as opposed to radically Islam-ist.
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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Oh, so you don't believe that homosexuals could at the same time be christian, therefore you don't care what it is that Buttegieg says. It's the bible tells you he is not a christian. So, what do you need to hear it from the horses mouth for? Y'all wouldn't believe him anyway.
                          Do pay attention, Jim. Cow Poke, et al. are not saying they'd believe him; they're looking for evidence of the mere claim itself coming from the horse's mouth. It seems to be more than your fellow non-believer can produce. Maybe you can help him with that.
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                          • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Do pay attention, Jim. Cow Poke, et al. are not saying they'd believe him; they're looking for evidence of the mere claim itself coming from the horse's mouth. It seems to be more than your fellow non-believer can produce. Maybe you can help him with that.
                            Yeah, so my question is, why do y'all want such evidence since you wouldn't accept that evidence any more than any of the other evidence that was given you? You don't believe he is a Christian regardless. So, you don't believe he's a christian. We get it! What's the point you are trying to make?

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Oh, so you don't believe that homosexuals could at the same time be christian, therefore you don't care what it is that Buttegieg says. It's the bible tells you he is not a christian. So, what do you need to hear it from the horses mouth for? Y'all wouldn't believe him anyway.
                              Thank you for never changing, Jim. There need to be some constants in this crazy world.
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Yeah, so my question is, why do y'all want such evidence since you wouldn't accept that evidence any more than any of the other evidence that was given you? You don't believe he is a Christian regardless. So, you don't believe he's a christian. We get it! What's the point you are trying to make?
                                The point is that Tassman can't seem to back up his assertion with evidence. Would you care to help him on that?
                                Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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