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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    That's why I've always said the "LGBTQ community" isn't really a community. It's a tenuous loose conglomeration of communities that will carpet bomb each other if their particular initial is singled out by one of the others. See Martina Navratilova for instance.
    Which is why we had a great big lengthy thread about the "LGBT community" and NAMBLA --- at the time, that was "an association" until some lesbians realized it hurt their cause.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    From the article cited:
    McKinnon ... argued, "Trans women are women. Trans men are men ... to treat me as a different king (kind, I believe it should be) of female or woman is inherently unjust." The relevant portion begins at the 3-minute mark:


    Ah - so there ARE only two genders after all.

    Of course, the logical solution to this insane set of circumstances - assuming that there is any validity at all to the multiple gender world-view - would be to establish 4 (or however many it takes) divisions of competition. CIS Men, CIS Women, Trans men, Trans women (and other divisions based on however many groups people decide to invent.)
    That's why I've always said the "LGBTQ community" isn't really a community. It's a tenuous loose conglomeration of communities that will carpet bomb each other if their particular initial is singled out by one of the others. See Martina Navratilova for instance.

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  • tabibito
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    From the article cited:
    McKinnon ... argued, "Trans women are women. Trans men are men ... to treat me as a different king (kind, I believe it should be) of female or woman is inherently unjust." The relevant portion begins at the 3-minute mark:


    Ah - so there ARE only two genders after all.

    Of course, the logical solution to this insane set of circumstances - assuming that there is any validity at all to the multiple gender world-view - would be to establish 4 (or however many it takes) divisions of competition. CIS Men, CIS Women, Trans men, Trans women (and other divisions based on however many groups people decide to invent.)

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    More like trying to allow a motorcycle in a bike race.
    One thing for sure, the term racism is losing all meaning...

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by seer View Post
    Transgender cycling champ: Excluding trans women from women's sports is like excluding black women from women's sports

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/transg...-women-message
    More like trying to allow a motorcycle in a bike race.

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  • seer
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    Transgender cycling champ: Excluding trans women from women's sports is like excluding black women from women's sports

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/transg...-women-message

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  • oxmixmudd
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Except the guys who couldn't cut it against other guys will find themselves in the same situation all over again when all of their "female" competitors are other males.
    or maybe not. I saw this today and thought is particularly comical. They will let men compete as women and take all the medals.

    But don't let a women get too close in a men's bike race!!!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/04/sport...spt/index.html

    Absolutely hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

    Jim

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Pretty much insanity. The young ladies are correct. The end result of this - if enough guys decide they'd rather be winners than 'male' - will be the destruction of women's sports. I can tell you as much as I actually prefer women's tennis over men's (the lack of power in the serve means the volleys are the more important aspect of the game) I won't be watching women's tennis matches between guys that can't make it on the men's pro tour.


    Jim
    Except the guys who couldn't cut it against other guys will find themselves in the same situation all over again when all of their "female" competitors are other males.

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The libs keep falling into the traps they built for conservatives.
    yep. because their ideals are unrealistic. They live in a fantasy world.

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Pretty much insanity. The young ladies are correct. The end result of this - if enough guys decide they'd rather be winners than 'male' - will be the destruction of women's sports. I can tell you as much as I actually prefer women's tennis over men's (the lack of power in the serve means the volleys are the more important aspect of the game) I won't be watching women's tennis matches between guys that can't make it on the men's pro tour.


    Jim
    and I think to a large extent that is what is happening. These men are mediocre in men's sports, but they can be at the top in women's sports. And the fact they are not having sex change surgery but just identifying as female pretty much confirms that.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    It always fascinating to watch those who call for tolerance reveal that they are some of the most intolerant people out there.
    The libs keep falling into the traps they built for conservatives.

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  • rogue06
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    From across the pond:

    Source: FURY AS EX-OLYMPIAN SHARRON DAVIES SAYS TRANS WOMEN SHOULD NOT COMPETE IN WOMEN'S SPORT


    Some have called for Davies to be stripped of her MBE


    Former Olympian Sharron Davies MBE has been accused of “fuelling hate” after saying that transgender women should not be allowed to compete in female sport.

    The competitive swimmer, who won a swimming silver at the 1980 Olympics in Moscow and two Commonwealth golds, said that her comments were not transphobic and claimed she had spoken to many other female athletes who “feel the same way”.

    “I have nothing against anyone who wishes 2be transgender [sic]”, Davies wrote on Twitter.

    “However I believe there is a fundamental difference between the binary sex u r born with & the gender u may identify as.

    The tweet has since received more than 22,000 likes and 3,000 retweets.

    The 56-year-old’s comments were supported by many, including Olympic track winner Sally Gunnell, gold medallist boxer Nicola Adams OBE and gold middle distance athlete Dame Kelly Holmes.

    However, others criticised Davies, with some even calling for her to be stripped of her MBE.

    “Well done Sharon, fuel the hate!,” one person wrote.

    “No one chooses to be Transgender. You have no idea about what it is like to be TG. Shame on you! StriptheMBE.”

    Another commented: “The use of the word “wishes” suggests you might have fundamentally misunderstood a key aspect of this issue.”

    A third person added: “Absolutely heartbreaking to see UK sport stars coming out as transphobic.

    “You don’t see trans women as women, you are also supporting transphobic hate groups. Heartbreaking.”

    Davies has since defended her comments, claiming that she’s not the only female athlete who feels this way.

    “It is not a transphobic thing - I really want to say we have no issue with people who are transgender,“ she told the BBC.

    ”Every single woman athlete I've spoken to, and I have spoken to many, all of my friends in international sports, understand and feel the same way as me.

    “Unfortunately, a lot of people who are in the races [now] are in a very difficult predicament when they can't speak out. It maybe falls to the people who were competing [in the past] who would understand the predicament that is being faced at the moment to try to create a debate, and try to explain how we feel there needs to be a fair and level playing field.”

    The debate comes just weeks after 18-time tennis Grand Slam singles champion Martina Navratilova said it was “cheating” to allow transgender women to compete in female sporting competitions because they had unfair physical advantages.

    “I am happy to address a transgender woman in whatever form she prefers, but I would not be happy to compete against her. It would not be fair,” Navratilova wrote in The Sunday Times.

    “To put the argument at its most basic: a man can decide to be female, take hormones if required by whatever sporting organisation is concerned, win everything in sight and perhaps earn a small fortune, and then reverse his decision and go back to making babies if he so desires.

    “It’s insane and it’s cheating.”

    A spokesperson for the Stonewall charity said: “Sport should be welcoming to everyone, including trans people. We need clubs and governing bodies, as the experts, to consider how their sports’ individual policies can work to be as inclusive as possible, and what advice and guidance they’re giving to ensure all people, including trans people, can take part in sport.”


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    The MBE is the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, a grade within the British order of chivalry, that rewards contributions to the arts and sciences, work with charitable and welfare organisations, and public service outside the civil service.

    It always fascinating to watch those who call for tolerance reveal that they are some of the most intolerant people out there.

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Pretty much insanity. The young ladies are correct. The end result of this - if enough guys decide they'd rather be winners than 'male' - will be the destruction of women's sports. I can tell you as much as I actually prefer women's tennis over men's (the lack of power in the serve means the volleys are the more important aspect of the game) I won't be watching women's tennis matches between guys that can't make it on the men's pro tour.


    Jim
    Right now they are pretty much picking on high schools and college sports. Wait until they start with something like women's professional tennis, or the WNBA.

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  • oxmixmudd
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Source: https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/25/male-runners-continue-dominating-girls-high-school-track-in-connecticut/



    High school juniors Terry Miller and Andraya Yearwood took first and second place in the state open indoor track championships Feb. 16, The Associated Press noted in a report Sunday. Both Miller and Yearwood are biological males who identify as transgender girls.

    One of their competitors, high school junior Selina Soule, told The Associated Press it was unfair to force female runners to compete against male runners.

    “We all know the outcome of the race before it even starts; it’s demoralizing,” said Soule. “I fully support and am happy for these athletes for being true to themselves. They should have the right to express themselves in school, but athletics have always had extra rules to keep the competition fair.”

    Miller is the third-fastest runner in the country in the girls’ 55-meter dash. Yearwood is close behind, tied for seventh nationally.

    Miller and Yearwood’s success is just the latest instance of male athletes who identify as transgender excelling in women’s sports.

    Miller and Yearwood easily outpaced female runners in the state in 2018 as well, when both were sophomores.

    A sympathetic segment on ABC’s “Good Morning America” in June 2018 described the two runners as “dominating the competition” at the outdoor state championships earlier that month.

    In that interview, Miller argued that female runners should work harder, rather than complaining about unfairness, when forced to compete against male athletes who identify as transgender.

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    Pretty much insanity. The young ladies are correct. The end result of this - if enough guys decide they'd rather be winners than 'male' - will be the destruction of women's sports. I can tell you as much as I actually prefer women's tennis over men's (the lack of power in the serve means the volleys are the more important aspect of the game) I won't be watching women's tennis matches between guys that can't make it on the men's pro tour.


    Jim

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