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  • Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
    Given that none of the leave campaign promises were remotely true, logically parliament should be pushing for a second referendum with remain vs what leave actually looks like vs the fantasies pushed in 2016. Simply revoking article 50 at this point- even though it is the only sane option given the appalling deals they've managed to strike since given that reality doesn't necessarily adhere to fantasy in the real world- would probably do more harm than good.

    Unfortunately parliament has shown itself to be better at saying what it doesn't want than what it does want, ironically actually reflecting the mood of the country quite aptly.


    I'm gonna take that as kinda yes. Mostly because of the last bit - and I don't want to ask for clarification since I don't wanna make you mad... Madder? Mad at me?

    Whichever, that's the first time I've ever seen you lose coherence... so unless that was just a typo, I'll just run away now...


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    • Yes it is... Wearying.

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      • The drama continues:
        Boris Johnson faces the prospect of being forced to accept a Brexit delay after MPs voted down his attempt to ram his deal through the Commons.

        The prime minister this evening lost a vote on a timetable that would have enabled him to push his agreement through the house in three days. MPs rejected his strategy by 322 to 308.
        Boris is being very disrespectful considering he has no majority.
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        • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
          The drama continues:


          Boris is being very disrespectful considering he has no majority.
          They didn't want an election.

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          • We're in the odd position of the Government likely losing a second referendum as 'leaving' in reality looks nothing like what was promised, but winning a general election as Corbyn is seen as so toxic politically. By winning a general election they'll then claim they have the mandate for any hard brexit which wasn't promised in the 2016 referendum, but they'll fight to the death to avoid an actual vote on the brexit withdrawal agreement.

            As a quick explanation as to why they'd prefer an election over a referendum, it comes down to how the votes are counted. In a referendum, my vote would be counted. In an election, I am in a Conservative safe seat, so my vote wouldn't go against the brexit deal like it would do otherwise. This is why the government is pushing so hard for an election and not for a referendum as this will be repeated across the country.

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            • A Bill going through Parliament today may result in a very rare December election. All sorts of motivations and hazards are involved.
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              • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                A Bill going through Parliament today may result in a very rare December election. All sorts of motivations and hazards are involved.
                It just seems so weird that you guys (ferreners) can just have elections whenever you want them (or not).
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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  It just seems so weird that you guys (ferreners) can just have elections whenever you want them (or not).
                  There is a Fixed Term Parliament Act but this bill is a dodge around it. Where there is a will ....
                  Boris could not have done this by himself because of the Act.

                  Heaven only knows how all this pans out.
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                  “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                  • Date seems set for December 12. Beat, the motion to move it to 9 December by 20 votes.

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                    • Electioneering is now in progress. US threats to NHS by higher drug prices are under discussion, along with worries about crap US food standards.

                      Mr Corbyn claimed Boris Johnson's EU exit deal will "unleash Thatcherism on steroids".
                      "Given the chance, they'll slash food standards to match those of the US where 'acceptable levels' of rat hairs in paprika and maggots in orange juice are allowed," he will claim.
                      "And they will put chlorinated chicken on the supermarket shelves."
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                      • The US can feed itself. The UK hasn't been able to do that since the First World War. Idiotic food standards just make that problem worse.

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                        • Oh, and in other news, Hoyle elected as new Speaker.


                          Has the House of Commons finally admitted it is a house of cards?

































                          Sorry, couldn't resist....

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                          • Britnews:
                            Chinese group likely to buy British Steel.
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                            • Details matter.
                              A photo of a pair of photographs.
                              General Assembly of the Church of Scotland 2011, Edinburgh.

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                              • "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot


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