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  • Parliament will be suspended just days after MPs return to work in September - and only a few weeks before the Brexit deadline.

    Boris Johnson said a Queen's Speech would take place after the suspension, on 14 October, to outline his "very exciting agenda".
    A no-deal Brexit is looking likely at this point.

    I could probably do UK tours of religious sites while the pound is so cheap for you Yanks. What you think?
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    • While I agree, there does seem to be some movement within the EU (I grant, I think it's more posturing but it might not be).

      My guess is they are now playing 'who gets the eventual blame' - but realistically, a no deal was pretty much guaranteed back in April. If neither side is going to move then all the extensions in the world won't do anything but delay the inevitable. And it never looked like there were enough Remainers in Parliament to actually derail the thing (which is what it looked like they were trying to do).

      Not my country - and all I really remember from Comparative Politics is how insane the British Constitution is.
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      • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
        A no-deal Brexit is looking likely at this point.

        I could probably do UK tours of religious sites while the pound is so cheap for you Yanks. What you think?
        Interesting that Boris appeared to need the Queen's permission to suspend Parliament. I was under the impression that at this point that the royals were purely figureheads.

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Interesting that Boris appeared to need the Queen's permission to suspend Parliament. I was under the impression that at this point that the royals were purely figureheads.
          The UK constitution is weird.


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          • Wow - parliament will be prorogued for nearly a month. The queen signed off on it - obstensively for her upcoming speech.




            BBC special about it (long):





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            • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
              Wow - parliament will be prorogued...
              My brudder gets himself into everything, but I've never seen "pro" used as part of his name!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Interesting that Boris appeared to need the Queen's permission to suspend Parliament. I was under the impression that at this point that the royals were purely figureheads.
                Maybe they keep her around for such a time as this!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  My brudder gets himself into everything, but I've never seen "pro" used as part of his name!
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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Interesting that Boris appeared to need the Queen's permission to suspend Parliament. I was under the impression that at this point that the royals were purely figureheads.
                    The Queen has little if any option; she has to follow the advice given to her by her Prime Minister. She has no other advisor.
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                    • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                      The Queen has little if any option; she has to follow the advice given to her by her Prime Minister. She has no other advisor.
                      When did it become mandatory to take any advice proffered?
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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Interesting that Boris appeared to need the Queen's permission to suspend Parliament. I was under the impression that at this point that the royals were purely figureheads.
                        We have had parliament prorogued here, as well. But the PM only has to go to the Governor General, who is the representative of the Queen. I remember once, when Stephen Harper was PM, and the Liberals and the NDP were planning coalition of their parties to unseat him. There have been other times, but I don't recall them.


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                        • This one may, or may not, be a constitutional crisis. And may, or may not, result in the dissolution of the Union.
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                          • Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                            We have had parliament prorogued here, as well.
                            It only makes sense that everyone should be pro-rogue.

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              It only makes sense that everyone should be pro-rogue.
                              It can set off a constitutional crisis and possibly destroy a nation. Frighteningly apropos...
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                              • Boris v the EU’s solidarity fund.
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