PM looses vote 202 to 432. Biggest defeat since 1920’s. Confidence vote tomorrow. If gov looses that, May resigns and Gen election will follow. What a shambles?!
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So, basically, Democracy goes out the window where democracy is supposed to be the rule.That's what
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostPM looses vote 202 to 432. Biggest defeat since 1920’s. Confidence vote tomorrow. If gov looses that, May resigns and Gen election will follow. What a shambles?!
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSo, basically, Democracy goes out the window where democracy is supposed to be the rule.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?
Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes, Minister:
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAre they gonna build a wall in Ireland?
For Brexiteers, the Irish "backstop" has become a dirty word, handcuffing the UK to the EU’s customs union and taking away Britain’s chance to strike trade deals around the world for the foreseeable future.
When the history of Brexit is written, there will be long arguments over whether the "backstop" could have been avoided, but even before the Brexit vote (2016), it was clear that Ireland was going to present a major impediment to the UK’s departure from the EU.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?
Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes Minister.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?
Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes, Minister:
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo they are leaving the EU in March. This is about striking a deal with the EU on the exit, like how to handle trade, borders, EU citizens living in the UK and vice versa, and apparently how much money the UK has to pay the EU (I have no idea what for)
One thing I do know: the EU has largely been a failure.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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This is from FOX:
"The deal was doomed by deep opposition from both sides of the divide over U.K.'s place in the bloc. Pro-Brexit lawmakers say the deal will leave Britain bound indefinitely to EU rules, while pro-EU politicians favor an even closer economic relationship with Europe."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...tish-lawmakers
It sounds like the PM was trying to create a deal that would have effectively kept Britain in the EU in some unofficial capacity. So my earlier summation wasn't entirely off the mark.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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“Better a horrible ending than unending horror.” , says Germany.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Essentially what happened is a lot of Brexiteers on the Conservative side voted against it since it would pretty much leave us as a vassel state to the EU still signed up to most of it but with no voting rights.“I didn’t go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of Port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don’t recommend Christianity.” - C.S. Lewis
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThis is from FOX:
"The deal was doomed by deep opposition from both sides of the divide over U.K.'s place in the bloc. Pro-Brexit lawmakers say the deal will leave Britain bound indefinitely to EU rules, while pro-EU politicians favor an even closer economic relationship with Europe."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...tish-lawmakers
It sounds like the PM was trying to create a deal that would have effectively kept Britain in the EU in some unofficial capacity. So my earlier summation wasn't entirely off the mark.“I didn’t go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of Port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don’t recommend Christianity.” - C.S. Lewis
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