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    Senate passes sweeping criminal justice reform bill

    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Awesome!

    What it does:

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Awesome!

      What it does:
      Wait... I posted something with which you AGREE?!?!?!?!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        87-12 vote. So bipartisanship isn't completely dead.

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Wait... I posted something with which you AGREE?!?!?!?!
          You agree with lighter sentences?

          What happened to the "tough on crime" conservative mantra?
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #6
            Well if Starlight thinks it is awesome it must be the Prison Apocalypse. We are all doomed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Wait... I posted something with which you AGREE?!?!?!?!
              He is just one of those Trump supporters.

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              • #8
                They need to figure out why the recidivism rate is so high
                That's what
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  You agree with lighter sentences?
                  I agree with a curb on "mandatory sentencing" - keeping a judge from using discretion based on individual cases.

                  What happened to the "tough on crime" conservative mantra?
                  I believe violent crime should be aggressively prosecuted, but I also believe that certain "containment" practices produce more violent criminals.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    87-12 vote. So bipartisanship isn't completely dead.
                    Yeah, I think there's a lot of common sense in this bill.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      They need to figure out why the recidivism rate is so high
                      Our local sheriff has pretty much cordoned his jail (86 beds) into two separate sections. If you're a first time offender, or somebody not convicted of violent crime, he puts you in the "I'm just here to do my time, so please leave me alone" section. If you're there to be a tough guy, and get gang tattoos and 'play the thug', he puts you in "general population". But you have a choice when you go in.

                      He's actually working under a federal grant to study the recidivism rates of each unit.

                      To your point, though, our previous sheriff (good friend who died from cancer) told me shortly before he passed "I'm tired of arresting the grandchildren of people I arrested 40 years ago".
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        There are different types of criminals.

                        Some are just people who end up doing something wrong and getting caught. Maybe they are normally honest people who got greedy or desperate and did something wrong. They usually learn their lesson and don't do it again.

                        Some are just people who end up hooked on drugs and get caught and arrested. Unless you can get them to want to get clean, they will most likely go right back to being addicted when let go.

                        Some are just people who LIKE to be criminals. They don't want a regular job, they want to "get rich" - by selling drugs, robbing people or businesses, have anger issues and like getting into fights, joining gangs, or whatever. Unless something really hits them in the heart, like finding Jesus, they are not going to change because they like being crooks.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          There are different types of criminals.

                          Some are just people who end up doing something wrong and getting caught. Maybe they are normally honest people who got greedy or desperate and did something wrong. They usually learn their lesson and don't do it again.

                          Some are just people who end up hooked on drugs and get caught and arrested. Unless you can get them to want to get clean, they will most likely go right back to being addicted when let go.

                          Some are just people who LIKE to be criminals. They don't want a regular job, they want to "get rich" - by selling drugs, robbing people or businesses, have anger issues and like getting into fights, joining gangs, or whatever. Unless something really hits them in the heart, like finding Jesus, they are not going to change because they like being crooks.
                          Yes, and if the first category individual gets locked up with the third category individual, which one is going to be a greater influence on the other?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Yes, and if the first category individual gets locked up with the third category individual, which one is going to be a greater influence on the other?
                            Jail isn't a great place to be, but you get free food, free place to sleep out of the elements, free clothing, free cable TV, don't have to work....

                            Beats being on the streets. Some people quite deliberately break the law upon getting released so they can go back. Sometime I suspect that our jail population is so high mostly because it's not such a bad place to be compared to other parts of the world.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              Jail isn't a great place to be, but you get free food, free place to sleep out of the elements, free clothing, free cable TV, don't have to work....

                              Beats being on the streets. Some people quite deliberately break the law upon getting released so they can go back. Sometime I suspect that our jail population is so high mostly because it's not such a bad place to be compared to other parts of the world.
                              Pink underwear, tents, balogna sandwiches...
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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