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Last edited by Mountain Man; 10-02-2018, 10:56 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDo you understand the point that the vast majority of fertilized eggs naturally die and fail to survive to birth? Even the highest rates of voluntary human abortion in any country come nowhere near to the number of embryos that 'nature' / 'God' / the natural processes kill off.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNot against rape attempts.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYour point seems to be that with the loss of consciousness you are going to die, meaning you will not be a living human being.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostClassic "elephant hurling" consists of claiming that there is copious evidence, but not providing any details. That list provides details.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post47,000 women die annually from unsafe abortions.
44 million abortions are carried out annually
and about half of those are unsafe.
So, a good chunk can be chalked up to poor facilities in countries where it is still legal.
Nothing the church does will save unwanted pregnancies.
If they had any humanity they would concentrate their efforts towards women’s healthcare.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt also refers to the practice of "hurling" a large amount of claims, "detailed" or otherwise, at an opponent with the implications that they bear the burden of addressing or refuting every single one in order to defeat the argument.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostNot according to Jon Sarfati, who popularised the term - or according to every other use of "elephant hurling" I've ever seen, with one exception - when some-one was avoiding using the more appropriate "Gish gallop".
http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.in...ephant_hurlingSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"...when the critic throws summary arguments about complex issues to give the impression of weighty evidence, but with an unstated presumption that a large complex of underlying ideas is true, and failing to consider opposing data, usually because they have uncritically accepted the arguments from their own side."
http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.in...ephant_hurling
Hint:
"Trump tells lots of lies" is a summary argument, that only gives an impression of weighty evidence.
"These are the lies Trump told: ..." is not a summary argument, and provides more than just an impression of the weighty evidence.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo you've gone from accusing me of genetic fallacy to being "dismissive". That's probably as close to a concession as you'll be willing to give.
At this point - I think that case has been adequately made. Last word to you.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNot according to Jon Sarfati...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI had a college professor way back when who used to like to cite him, but she always pronounced his name "Jon Safarti". I honestly don't think she knew she was doing that.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI use the mnemonic "fat, not fart". It seems to work.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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So, Flake's "deal" to require an FBI background check was obviously just more stall tactics, because he's already saying...
Jeff Flake: ‘We Can’t Have That on the Court’
Sounds like time wasted, he's still a no.
Speaking with Jeffrey Rosen, the president of the Constitution Center, and Democratic Senator Chris Coons at The Atlantic Festival on Tuesday morning, Flake called the judge’s interactions with lawmakers “sharp and partisan.”
“We can’t have that on the Court,” said the Arizona senator, who didn’t elaborate on which interactions he was referring to.
Flake’s “gentleman’s agreement” with Coons, from Delaware, led to the FBI reopening its investigation into Kavanaugh late last week. The bureau is examining the sexual-assault allegations of Christine Blasey Ford, who also testified on Thursday.
Or maybe not?
Kavanaugh’s nomination seemed poised to advance before Flake and Coons made a deal.
I caught up with Flake briefly as he left the event, and asked if this meant he would not vote to confirm Kavanaugh, even if the FBI cleared him by week’s end. He appeared rattled, and his handlers rushed him into the stairwell. “I didn’t say that …” he stammered. “I wasn’t referring to him.”
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, Flake's "deal" to require an FBI background check was obviously just more stall tactics, because he's already saying...
Jeff Flake: ‘We Can’t Have That on the Court’
Sounds like time wasted, he's still a no.
Speaking with Jeffrey Rosen, the president of the Constitution Center, and Democratic Senator Chris Coons at The Atlantic Festival on Tuesday morning, Flake called the judge’s interactions with lawmakers “sharp and partisan.”
“We can’t have that on the Court,” said the Arizona senator, who didn’t elaborate on which interactions he was referring to.
Flake’s “gentleman’s agreement” with Coons, from Delaware, led to the FBI reopening its investigation into Kavanaugh late last week. The bureau is examining the sexual-assault allegations of Christine Blasey Ford, who also testified on Thursday.
Or maybe not?
Kavanaugh’s nomination seemed poised to advance before Flake and Coons made a deal.
I caught up with Flake briefly as he left the event, and asked if this meant he would not vote to confirm Kavanaugh, even if the FBI cleared him by week’s end. He appeared rattled, and his handlers rushed him into the stairwell. “I didn’t say that …” he stammered. “I wasn’t referring to him.”
The real question are the Democrats in deeply red states who are up for re-election and who were banking on Kavanaugh stepping aside and sparing them from voting. Since he didn't Cuomo has been repeatedly urging them not to panic and adopt a wait and see attitude wrt the fence straddling Republicans.Last edited by rogue06; 10-02-2018, 01:08 PM.
I'm always still in trouble again
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