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  • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
    Oh, the compulsive liar kept his word, how noble. Actually all Trump did was cynically pander to his opportunistic Evangelical base, that’s all.
    Hatred is like a cancer, Tass - it consumes you. You might wanna back off just a tad. It also tends to make you more like the object of your hate, which is clearly happening to you, as we see in your posts.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      This is nothing but partisan bull and blustering*:
      Horse pooey. It's a fact that Obama gutted the military and that spending has gone up dramatically to increase readiness. I am regularly privy to briefings that discuss readiness levels and communication challenges that result. I don't really care if you believe it or not. I believe a few SES and a 2 star discussing the matter directly.

      The deficits rose precipitously under the bush years.
      Again, because Clinton gutted the military and we were completely unprepared for the financial implications of that WRT the attacks on our soil.

      The last time we took in more than we spent was under Bill Clinton.
      Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Once that bubble burst, the influx of cash went south.

      Trump gave us a tax cut, but without a reduction in government spending or sufficient corporate income to increase total tax revenue overall, the impact of that is increasing deficit spending.
      The tax cuts barely cost us ~150B a year. But the Joint Committee on Taxation said the cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually. The increased growth will add revenue, offsetting some of the tax cuts. The big ticket items are defense spending, which includes military, Veteran's Affairs, and Homeland, and mandatory payments like Social Security, which gobbles up 2/3 of the total revenue each year. Even then, revenue is projected to rise next year.

      current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783-FINAL-5ba4fdf346e0fb0025bd0ce8.jpg


      These are the simple facts. It's not what I wish was true, but it is what IS true.

      Source: (Obama era but still pertinent) CNN Fact check

      Fact Check: Who was president the last time the budget was balanced?

      - The U.S. government suffered budget deficits every year from 1970 through 1997.
      - Democrat Bill Clinton was president in 1998, when the government finally recorded a surplus.
      - There also were budget surpluses in 1999, 2000 and in 2001. 2001 was the last year the Clinton administration proposed the budget.
      - Republican George W. Bush succeeded Clinton in 2001. The United States had a budget deficit in 2002, and it has recorded budget deficits every year since. The deficit is projected to increase substantially this year under President Barack Obama.
      - Republicans say they should get at least some of the credit for the balanced budgets during the Clinton administration, because Republican majorities controlled both the House and Senate.

      © Copyright Original Source

      THIS is also a fact:

      Under the Clinton Administration, the U.S military has suffered under a dangerous combination of reduced budgets, diminished forces, and increased missions. The result has been a steep decline in readiness and an overall decline in U.S. military strength. Nearly a decade of misdirected policy coupled with a myopic modernization strategy has rendered America's armed forces years away from top form.

      https://www.heritage.org/defense/rep...tary-readiness

      In 2013, readiness took a hit as a result of sequestration. Because cuts had to be made late in the fiscal year, the services were forced to cut facility maintenance, international exercises, and most significantly, training activities. The services have been digging out of that hole ever since. The Trump administration emphasized readiness in its FY 2017 and FY 2018 budgets. Nevertheless, readiness data are conflicting. Some metrics, like Army rotations to Combat Training Centers, service flying hours, and Navy ship steaming days, have recovered from post-2013 lows, but others, like Navy and Marine Corps aircraft availability, remain depressed. With overall DOD budgets rising, targeted readiness increases, such as aviation spare parts, may be better investments than across-the-board increases.

      https://www.csis.org/analysis/state-...s-there-crisis
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
        Perfect example of the dumbed down republican voter. Take a look at the history BTC, the democrats who aren't always droning on about the debt are the ones who actually bring it down, the republicans on the other hand, who never shut up about it, when they get into office and have the power to do something about it, just like Trump, they couldn't care any less about the debt any more and spend like the world will end tomorrow on their own pet projects like unecessary wars, and huge tax cuts for their wealthy benefactors.
        They did a great job doubling it in 8 years.
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Perfect example of the dumbed down republican voter. Take a look at the history BTC, the democrats who aren't always droning on about the debt are the ones who actually bring it down, the republicans on the other hand, who never shut up about it, when they get into office and have the power to do something about it, just like Trump, they couldn't care any less about the debt any more and spend like the world will end tomorrow on their own pet projects like unecessary wars, and huge tax cuts for their wealthy benefactors.
          So you think Obama brought the debt down?




          https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296

          Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29-percent increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017.

          Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74-percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.
          Last edited by Bill the Cat; 10-17-2018, 10:28 AM.
          That's what
          - She

          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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          • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
            So you think Obama brought the debt down?
            ...and calmed the seas, and healed the planet, and....
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • This is hilarious....

              Michael Avenatti Is Making Concrete Moves to Run for President in 2020 Against Trump

              Michael Avenatti made his liberal fans look like fools

              Somehow, he thinks he has cred?
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                Horse pooey. It's a fact that Obama gutted the military and that spending has gone up dramatically to increase readiness. I am regularly privy to briefings that discuss readiness levels and communication challenges that result. I don't really care if you believe it or not. I believe a few SES and a 2 star discussing the matter directly.



                Again, because Clinton gutted the military and we were completely unprepared for the financial implications of that WRT the attacks on our soil.



                Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Once that bubble burst, the influx of cash went south.



                The tax cuts barely cost us ~150B a year. But the Joint Committee on Taxation said the cuts will stimulate growth by 0.7 percent annually. The increased growth will add revenue, offsetting some of the tax cuts. The big ticket items are defense spending, which includes military, Veteran's Affairs, and Homeland, and mandatory payments like Social Security, which gobbles up 2/3 of the total revenue each year. Even then, revenue is projected to rise next year.

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                THIS is also a fact:

                Under the Clinton Administration, the U.S military has suffered under a dangerous combination of reduced budgets, diminished forces, and increased missions. The result has been a steep decline in readiness and an overall decline in U.S. military strength. Nearly a decade of misdirected policy coupled with a myopic modernization strategy has rendered America's armed forces years away from top form.

                https://www.heritage.org/defense/rep...tary-readiness

                In 2013, readiness took a hit as a result of sequestration. Because cuts had to be made late in the fiscal year, the services were forced to cut facility maintenance, international exercises, and most significantly, training activities. The services have been digging out of that hole ever since. The Trump administration emphasized readiness in its FY 2017 and FY 2018 budgets. Nevertheless, readiness data are conflicting. Some metrics, like Army rotations to Combat Training Centers, service flying hours, and Navy ship steaming days, have recovered from post-2013 lows, but others, like Navy and Marine Corps aircraft availability, remain depressed. With overall DOD budgets rising, targeted readiness increases, such as aviation spare parts, may be better investments than across-the-board increases.

                https://www.csis.org/analysis/state-...s-there-crisis
                I wasn't arguing if how he did it was good. IIRC we also had a similar problem with military readiness (maybe worse) under Carter. And of course, expenditures under Bush took the hit associated with the response to 911. The issue is, the last balanced budget was under a 'liberal', so unless one is prepared to do a lot of tap dancing, claiming the 'liberals' necessarily are unqualified to lecture on spending is not going to fly. Because the balance of spending against expenditures has never been better than under Bill Clinton (Democrat/Liberal) and a Republican House and Senate.

                The Military costs a lot of money. Keeping it ready has to come at a cost to other special programs. In general, If we have to have all our wants and desires, we have to borrow money. If we want/need a strong military, something else has to go, or we just keep borrowing and eventually things go splat. Honestly, I don't see how to avoid a big splat in the future anyway. The US owes roughly the amount of its GDP, and the tax revenues were <1/5 the debt. That is like a family of 4 earning $100,000 after tax and carrying $500,000 in debt. It's pretty much to the point there isn't a way to fix the problem because there is no way anyone is willing to put 25% of the tax revenue into debt retirement and run the government on only what is left, which is what would be required to pay it off - in 30 years.



                Jim
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View Post
                  Yep. It takes them all working together (not gonna happen). I honestly don't know how to motivate the public in such a way as to actually create change in this arena. To many divided interests and all of them willing to take money that hasn't been earned yet.
                  What we need is some kind of constitution to rein in the government...
                  Last edited by Mountain Man; 10-17-2018, 11:11 AM.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • In other words, liberals still have no idea why Trump won. Their mindset seems to be, "Trump is boorish and offensive, and now he's president. Well, we can be be just as boorish and offensive, so there!" They really don't understand that there's a lot more substance to our President than just his coarse public persona.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Hatred is like a cancer, Tass - it consumes you. You might wanna back off just a tad. It also tends to make you more like the object of your hate, which is clearly happening to you, as we see in your posts.
                      Where is OBP with his irony meter when you need him.

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                      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        In other words, liberals still have no idea why Trump won. Their mindset seems to be, "Trump is boorish and offensive, and now he's president. Well, we can be be just as boorish and offensive, so there!" They really don't understand that there's a lot more substance to our President than just his coarse public persona.
                        We know why he won MM, we just didn't realize how many easily conned airheads there were out there. Btw, Trump lost by 3 million votes!

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                        • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          So you think Obama brought the debt down?




                          https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296

                          Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29-percent increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017.

                          Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74-percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.
                          err - for trump - that is over 4 years, not 8. Extrapolating to 8, that is 9.5 trillion. And that would mean that Trump would meet or exceed Obama's legacy in dollars if not percent.


                          Jim
                          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                          • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                            We know why he won MM, we just didn't realize how many easily conned airheads there were out there. Btw, Trump lost by 3 million votes!
                            And to continue my observation, not understanding why Trump won has led to liberals living in denial and becoming increasingly irrational.

                            Exhibit A: they still think the popular vote matters a hill of beans in a presidential election.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                              err - for trump - that is over 4 years, not 8. Extrapolating to 8, that is 9.5 trillion. And that would mean that Trump would meet or exceed Obama's legacy in dollars if not percent.


                              Jim
                              Not to mention the mess that Obama had to deal with, unnecessary expensive wars and a near depression, immediately upon taking office compared to the cleaned up mess Obama left for Trump.

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                              • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                                err - for trump - that is over 4 years, not 8. Extrapolating to 8, that is 9.5 trillion. And that would mean that Trump would meet or exceed Obama's legacy in dollars if not percent.


                                Jim
                                I'm sure, but it still shows a relativity to Obama's, so Jimmy's insistence that Democrats cut the deficit can be summarily dismissed.
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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