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  • Sweden bans criticism of immigration/politicians?

    I saw this story posted elsewhere and tracked down a swedish source for it. Unfortunately you'll have to settle for Swedish Engrish:

    http://www.friatider.se/nya-lagen-nu...representanter

    Constitution amended: Some will get sour cream ()
    The crime of "insult" will be prosecuted - but only for breach of immigrants, LGBTQ persons or authorities
    Tailored to hunt so-called "näthatare"

    After Christmas, it will be possible for prosecutors to criminal action against the Swedes who violates immigrants or people in authority online after the Constitutional Committee's report on the matter has been voted in parliament, seen in a letter from the Parliamentary Office.

    © Reichstag
    Andreas Norlén (M), has been a driving force behind the amendment.
    - This is good change. They make it a little better for the public prosecutor and the police to intervene.
    Member of Parliament Andrew Norlén (M), member of the Constitutional Committee, has been pushing the issue and he says it will rapidly become a deterrent.

    - I do not think it takes very many prosecutions before a signal is transmitted in the community that the internet is not a lawless country - the sheriff is back in town, said Andreas Norlén, during an unchallenged debate the issue in parliament.
    The Swedes must be invaded and stripped of democratic rights for their own good.

    Who's really behind this:
    Last edited by Darth Executor; 04-23-2014, 12:22 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      I saw this story posted elsewhere and tracked down a swedish source for it. Unfortunately you'll have to settle for Swedish Engrish:

      http://www.friatider.se/nya-lagen-nu...representanter



      The Swedes must be invaded and stripped of democratic rights for their own good.

      Who's really behind this:
      You think the Muslims were behind making it illegal to criticize "LGBT" persons? Somehow, I find that hard to believe.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by TimelessTheist View Post
        You think the Muslims were behind making it illegal to criticize "LGBT" persons? Somehow, I find that hard to believe.
        When did Finns become muslim?

        Nevermind that the picture is a joke. Those actually responsible are the Archfiends of Progress, like usual.
        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

        There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
          When did Finns become muslim?

          Nevermind that the picture is a joke. Those actually responsible are the Archfiends of Progress, like usual.
          Sorry, I just saw the picture and assumed...anyway, yeah, this is crap.
          Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.

          -Thomas Aquinas

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          -Hernando Cortez

          What is the good of experience if you do not reflect?

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          • #6
            DE, did you make that picture yourself?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View Post
              DE, did you make that picture yourself?
              It is on his OKCupid profile.
              The State. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

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              • #8
                Ah.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View Post
                  DE, did you make that picture yourself?
                  No.
                  "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                  There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren View Post
                    It is on his OKCupid profile.
                    That he has an OKCupid profile is actually more disturbing than the picture...


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                    • #11
                      Here's my attempt at a translation. I did not spend too much time on it however, so it's still a quite clumsy. I also added a bit to the text in order to make it flow just a little more smoothly, but nothing that changes the meaning of the article:

                      Source: My hasty and unchecked translation of http://www.friatider.se/nya-lagen-nu-lattare-atala-svenskar2-for-att-forolampa-invandrare-och-myndighetesrepresentanter


                      Constitution Amended: Some will be privileged (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gr%C3%A4ddfil and check etymology 2 for explanation)

                      The crime of "insulting" will lead to prosecution – but only for crimes against immigrants, hbtq-people, or authorities

                      Tailored for hunting so-called "net-haters"

                      LAW & JUSTICE. After Christmas public prosecution against Swedes who offend immigrants or government officials on the net will be facilitated following a vote in the Swedish Parliament passing the Committee on the Constitution's report on the issue, according to a letter from the Parliamentary Office.

                      (caption):
                      Andreas Norlén (M), has been a driving force behind the legislative change.
                      – These are good changes. They will make it easier for public prosecutors and the police to intervene.

                      Member of Parliament Andreas Norlén (M), sitting on the Committee on the Constitution, has been a driving force in the issue and states that the law will quickly become a deterrent.

                      – I don't think many indictments will be necessary before society is sent a signal that internet is no lawless country - The sheriff is back in town, Andreas Norlén stated during a unopposed debate in the parliament (I'm still wondering how it can be a debate if it was unopposed )

                      Because of the legislative change plaintiff's are no longer required to pursue criminal charges of libel and slander themselves, instead public prosecutors will be able to press charges themselves, which is expected to lead to a rise in prosecutions dealing with libel and slander.

                      Immigrants, hbtq-people and civil servants will be especially privileged by the new law, as they will be able to let prosecutors press public charges against people for common insults. Ordinary Swedes are not included in the scope of the new law.

                      The entirety of the Swedish Parliament is in support of the legislative changes, which will be partially implemented during summer, and will be fully implented in January after the election, as amending the constitution requires this.

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                      • #12
                        I don't follow Swedish politics, so contextually, is there something in particular they have in mind? (i.e. is this just a rehash of the usual hate speech debate)?
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          I don't follow Swedish politics, so contextually, is there something in particular they have in mind? (i.e. is this just a rehash of the usual hate speech debate)?
                          If I understood the article correctly, prosecutors will be able to press charges against people simply for insulting (and not only libeling and slandring) immigrants, hbtq-people and government officials on the internet. In other words, the plaintiff's themselves will not be required to press the charges, as has been the case before. I don't know if this answers your question.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                            If I understood the article correctly, prosecutors will be able to press charges against people simply for insulting (and not only libeling and slandring) immigrants, hbtq-people and government officials on the internet. In other words, the plaintiff's themselves will not be required to press the charges, as has been the case before. I don't know if this answers your question.
                            So, basically prosecutors now have free reign to be the Thought Police of the Kakistocracy, and leftists don't even have to go through the motions of finding someone willing to lie and act offended for them to press charges against people they don't like. (Guess even they didn't want to have to deal with the Rachel Jeantels of the world.)

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                            • #15
                              Oh yeah, this has 'seriously gonna backfire' written all over it. How do prosecutors deal with the flood of complaints they're gonna get when they take one case over another? Not to mention the sheer volume of cases if they are going to even look sort of impartial...

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