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  • #31
    Originally posted by JimL View Post
    Actually it was named Dinali by native americans for most of its existence, and was never officially named Mckinley.
    You'd look smarter if you actually read the link and educated yourself before responding, Jim.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      You'd look smarter if you actually read the link and educated yourself before responding, Jim.
      You'd look less arrogant if you if you weren't so arrogant, OBP. The Mt. was never officialy named Mt. Mckinley.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JimL View Post
        You'd look less arrogant if you if you weren't so arrogant, OBP. The Mt. was never officialy named Mt. Mckinley.
        From Wikipedia:

        Source: Denali


        Denali (/dɪˈnɑːli/)[5][6] (also known as Mount McKinley, its former official name)[7] is the tallest land-based[a] mountain on Earth—with a vertical rise of about 18,000 feet (5,500 m)[b], as well as the highest mountain peak in North America—with a summit elevation of 20,310 feet (6,190 m) above sea level.



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        Source: Denali–Mount McKinley naming dispute


        The name of the highest mountain in North America became a subject of dispute in 1975, when the Alaska Legislature asked the U.S. federal government to officially change its name from Mount McKinley to Denali. The mountain had been unofficially named Mount McKinley in 1896 by a gold prospector, and officially by the United States government in 1917 to commemorate William McKinley, who was president of the United States from 1897 until his assassination in 1901.



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        From the National Park Service:

        Source: Denali or Mount McKinley?


        Despite the official decision to use “Mount McKinley” as the name of the peak and the national park, the debate did not die. ... In 1980, momentum continued to favor the name Denali after the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act changed the park’s name to Denali National Park and Preserve. But the official name of the mountain remained Mount McKinley.



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        USA Today:

        Source: Obama administration renames Mount McKinley to Denali


        But when European Americans discovered it in the 19th century, they renamed it Densmore's Mountain and, later, Mount McKinley in an effort to boost the presidential candidacy of Republican William McKinley. ... The name became official with the Mount McKinley National Park Act in 1917



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        New York Times:

        Source: Mount McKinley Will Again Be Called Denali


        The central Alaska mountain has officially been called Mount McKinley for almost a century. In announcing that Sally Jewell, the secretary of the interior, had used her power to rename it, Mr. Obama was paying tribute to the state’s Native population, which has referred to the site for generations as Denali, meaning “the high one” or “the great one.”



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        From Encyclopedia Britannica:

        Source: Denali


        The mountain was known to the Athabaskan Indians as Denali (“The High One” or “The Great One”) and to the Russians as Bolshaya Gora (“Great Mountain”). It was called Densmore’s Mountain in 1889 by Frank Densmore, a prospector. The name Mount McKinley was applied in 1896 by William A. Dickey, another prospector, in honour of William McKinley (who was elected president of the United States later that year) and became the official name.



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        To quote the late author, Edward Flaherty, "You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance."

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #34
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          From Wikipedia:

          Source: Denali


          Denali (/dɪˈnɑːli/)[5][6] (also known as Mount McKinley, its former official name)[7] is the tallest land-based[a] mountain on Earth—with a vertical rise of about 18,000 feet (5,500 m)[b], as well as the highest mountain peak in North America—with a summit elevation of 20,310 feet (6,190 m) above sea level.



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          Source: Denali–Mount McKinley naming dispute


          The name of the highest mountain in North America became a subject of dispute in 1975, when the Alaska Legislature asked the U.S. federal government to officially change its name from Mount McKinley to Denali. The mountain had been unofficially named Mount McKinley in 1896 by a gold prospector, and officially by the United States government in 1917 to commemorate William McKinley, who was president of the United States from 1897 until his assassination in 1901.



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          From the National Park Service:

          Source: Denali or Mount McKinley?


          Despite the official decision to use “Mount McKinley” as the name of the peak and the national park, the debate did not die. ... In 1980, momentum continued to favor the name Denali after the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act changed the park’s name to Denali National Park and Preserve. But the official name of the mountain remained Mount McKinley.



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          USA Today:

          Source: Obama administration renames Mount McKinley to Denali


          But when European Americans discovered it in the 19th century, they renamed it Densmore's Mountain and, later, Mount McKinley in an effort to boost the presidential candidacy of Republican William McKinley. ... The name became official with the Mount McKinley National Park Act in 1917



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          New York Times:

          Source: Mount McKinley Will Again Be Called Denali


          The central Alaska mountain has officially been called Mount McKinley for almost a century. In announcing that Sally Jewell, the secretary of the interior, had used her power to rename it, Mr. Obama was paying tribute to the state’s Native population, which has referred to the site for generations as Denali, meaning “the high one” or “the great one.”



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          From Encyclopedia Britannica:

          Source: Denali


          The mountain was known to the Athabaskan Indians as Denali (“The High One” or “The Great One”) and to the Russians as Bolshaya Gora (“Great Mountain”). It was called Densmore’s Mountain in 1889 by Frank Densmore, a prospector. The name Mount McKinley was applied in 1896 by William A. Dickey, another prospector, in honour of William McKinley (who was elected president of the United States later that year) and became the official name.



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          To quote the late author, Edward Flaherty, "You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance."
          You and those durned fact thingies!
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            You and those durned fact thingies!
            It's a disease

            I'm always still in trouble again

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              You'd look less arrogant if you if you weren't so arrogant, OBP. The Mt. was never officialy named Mt. Mckinley.
              The National Park Service disagrees with you, Jim. I checked before I posted, and even provided you a link for verification. Again, you'd look smarter if you bothered to do the same, which you clearly haven't done here. Whatever you were aiming for, you missed - and looked stupid for taking the first swing, let alone the second. Are you going to go for the trifecta?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                Invalid comparison! Political opponents cannot be compared to historical figures that set about the destruction of entire peoples. Such people should be reviled, not commemorated by monuments in public places.
                When did William McKinley "set about the destruction of entire peoples"?

                For that matter, the confederate statues that initially caused the hubbub weren't of people who did that either as far as I know. For example, there's valid criticisms to be made of Robert E. Lee, but attempted genocide certainly isn't one of them.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  From Wikipedia:

                  Source: Denali


                  Denali (/dɪˈnɑːli/)[5][6] (also known as Mount McKinley, its former official name)[7] is the tallest land-based[a] mountain on Earth—with a vertical rise of about 18,000 feet (5,500 m)[b], as well as the highest mountain peak in North America—with a summit elevation of 20,310 feet (6,190 m) above sea level.



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                  © Copyright Original Source



                  Source: Denali–Mount McKinley naming dispute


                  The name of the highest mountain in North America became a subject of dispute in 1975, when the Alaska Legislature asked the U.S. federal government to officially change its name from Mount McKinley to Denali. The mountain had been unofficially named Mount McKinley in 1896 by a gold prospector, and officially by the United States government in 1917 to commemorate William McKinley, who was president of the United States from 1897 until his assassination in 1901.



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                  From the National Park Service:

                  Source: Denali or Mount McKinley?


                  Despite the official decision to use “Mount McKinley” as the name of the peak and the national park, the debate did not die. ... In 1980, momentum continued to favor the name Denali after the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act changed the park’s name to Denali National Park and Preserve. But the official name of the mountain remained Mount McKinley.



                  Source

                  © Copyright Original Source



                  USA Today:

                  Source: Obama administration renames Mount McKinley to Denali


                  But when European Americans discovered it in the 19th century, they renamed it Densmore's Mountain and, later, Mount McKinley in an effort to boost the presidential candidacy of Republican William McKinley. ... The name became official with the Mount McKinley National Park Act in 1917



                  Source

                  © Copyright Original Source



                  New York Times:

                  Source: Mount McKinley Will Again Be Called Denali


                  The central Alaska mountain has officially been called Mount McKinley for almost a century. In announcing that Sally Jewell, the secretary of the interior, had used her power to rename it, Mr. Obama was paying tribute to the state’s Native population, which has referred to the site for generations as Denali, meaning “the high one” or “the great one.”



                  Source

                  © Copyright Original Source



                  From Encyclopedia Britannica:

                  Source: Denali


                  The mountain was known to the Athabaskan Indians as Denali (“The High One” or “The Great One”) and to the Russians as Bolshaya Gora (“Great Mountain”). It was called Densmore’s Mountain in 1889 by Frank Densmore, a prospector. The name Mount McKinley was applied in 1896 by William A. Dickey, another prospector, in honour of William McKinley (who was elected president of the United States later that year) and became the official name.



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                  To quote the late author, Edward Flaherty, "You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance."
                  [JimL] Well yeah it was officially named Mount McKinley but not Mt. McKinley![/JimL]

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