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  • Go Arpaio Go!

    Just saw this little tidbit in my news feed. As unbelievable as it seems to me, I do encourage the man to continue. I cannot believe this can do anything other than paint Arpaio as the far right extremist he is, and rally the left in AZ to defeat him.

    I honestly thought that conspiracy theory was finally dead....
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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    Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    Just saw this little tidbit in my news feed. As unbelievable as it seems to me, I do encourage the man to continue. I cannot believe this can do anything other than paint Arpaio as the far right extremist he is, and rally the left in AZ to defeat him.
    This isn't anything new. He declared his candidacy for the primary months ago.

    Anyway, I can't imagine him entering the primary would rally the left to defeat him. They'd probably want him to succeed to give the Democrats a better chance. Or maybe you mean it'd rally the left if he wins the nomination, but that seems unlikely. Martha McSally was leading in the most recent polls, and while those admittedly were back in January (not making them particularly recent), I imagine things will have gotten worse for Arpaio in the meantime considering how badly nominating Roy Moore worked out for the Republicans.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
      This isn't anything new. He declared his candidacy for the primary months ago.

      Anyway, I can't imagine him entering the primary would rally the left to defeat him. They'd probably want him to succeed to give the Democrats a better chance. Or maybe you mean it'd rally the left if he wins the nomination, but that seems unlikely. Martha McSally was leading in the most recent polls, and while those admittedly were back in January (not making them particularly recent), I imagine things will have gotten worse for Arpaio in the meantime considering how badly nominating Roy Moore worked out for the Republicans.
      What does a slander campaign against Moore have to do with weakening the Republicans? That process just showed how corrupt the Democrats are. Such slander can be done in any campaign independent of the quality of a candidate.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
        This isn't anything new. He declared his candidacy for the primary months ago.

        Anyway, I can't imagine him entering the primary would rally the left to defeat him. They'd probably want him to succeed to give the Democrats a better chance. Or maybe you mean it'd rally the left if he wins the nomination, but that seems unlikely. Martha McSally was leading in the most recent polls, and while those admittedly were back in January (not making them particularly recent), I imagine things will have gotten worse for Arpaio in the meantime considering how badly nominating Roy Moore worked out for the Republicans.
        Yeah - I was skipping right over the primaries and going straight for the general...

        Seems I hitched the horse to the wrong end of the dang cart!
        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
          What does a slander campaign against Moore have to do with weakening the Republicans? That process just showed how corrupt the Democrats are. Such slander can be done in any campaign independent of the quality of a candidate.
          It's not slander if it's true, Mike. It's just news.
          The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

          I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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          • #6
            What's the point of going after Obama now? I agree that there are still some oddities surrounding Obama's official place of birth (no hard copies of his Hawaiian birth certificate? Social security number from Connecticut?), but Obama is no longer president, he can't do any more damage to the country, so why bother?
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
              What does a slander campaign against Moore have to do with weakening the Republicans? That process just showed how corrupt the Democrats are. Such slander can be done in any campaign independent of the quality of a candidate.
              Even if we assume it was slander, Moore would have won despite it if he hadn't been such an extremist.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                It's not slander if it's true, Mike. It's just news.
                It was slander. Every one of the accusers' stories fell apart under scrutiny, not that the liberal media was interested in digging too deeply. In fact, The Washington Post who broke the original accusation buried the fact that the timeline was almost impossibly short for everything she claimed happened.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  What's the point of going after Obama now? I agree that there are still some oddities surrounding Obama's official place of birth (no hard copies of his Hawaiian birth certificate? Social security number from Connecticut?), but Obama is no longer president, he can't do any more damage to the country, so why bother?
                  Of course you're a birther.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                    Even if we assume it was slander, Moore would have won despite it if he hadn't been such an extremist.
                    Isn't it the person who has seen the corruptions of the government precisely what we are looking for to try to fix the government?

                    It was not the people against an honest candidate; it was the US Congress who sought not to have an honest candidate. That alone would have been the important reason for people to act against such evil actions to keep him out of office.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                      It's not slander if it's true, Mike. It's just news.
                      Wow. You have a lower estimation of the quality of new from the mass media than I have. When you first were discussing things here in these recent days, I thought you might have brought in more balanced discussion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        What's the point of going after Obama now? I agree that there are still some oddities surrounding Obama's official place of birth (no hard copies of his Hawaiian birth certificate? Social security number from Connecticut?), but Obama is no longer president, he can't do any more damage to the country, so why bother?
                        Hawaii provided his long-form birth certificate, so the first part is false.

                        Theory 1: Apparently I must be highly suspicious as well, because my birth certificate says I was born in NH but my social security code is from VT. According to my parents, it was common practice not to get a social security number until something happened that required it. That didn't happen for us until after we had moved to Vermont, hence the disconnect. The practice of issuing a SSN at birth happened later, and is still not universal.

                        Theory 2: However, the problem is actually a bit different than that. The social security number is a federal number. The prefix is based on the address to which the social security number is requested to be sent, not the state the issuer occupies. Since Obama moved out of country (Kenya) at a young age, if that request was made after they left, the request would have been to send the social security number to a friend or relative's home somewhere in country. That is perfectly normal. If that friend/relative lived in Connecticut - end of mystery.

                        Theory 3 (and the BIG winner): The zip code where Obama lived in Hawaii and the Connecticut zip code are identical except for the first number: it's a 9 in Hawaii and a 0 in Connecticut. That makes the most likely theory simple typo, since those two numbers are side by side on the typewriter keyboard. It seems VERY unlikely that Obama would have moved to or known someone in that SPECIFIC zip code on the mainland.

                        Really - it's time for this bogus conspiracy theory to die, IMO. I think Arpaio is
                        Last edited by carpedm9587; 03-27-2018, 06:43 PM.
                        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
                          Of course you're a birther.
                          Not as such. It's just that some things don't add up. Maybe there's a good explanation, but I haven't heard it (the Connecticut social security number is the most inexplicable since someone born in Hawaii should have a Hawaiian social security number). None of it is conclusive; I just find it curious.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            Not as such. It's just that some things don't add up. Maybe there's a good explanation, but I haven't heard it (the Connecticut social security number is the most inexplicable since someone born in Hawaii should have a Hawaiian social security number). None of it is conclusive; I just find it curious.
                            See my post...
                            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                              Hawaii provided his long-form birth certificate...
                              A digital copy with some certain anomalies that have never been entirely explained. To my knowledge, nobody has ever seen a physical copy of the original. Like I said, not definitive, just curious.

                              Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                              According to my parents, it was common practice not to get a social security number until something happened that required it. That didn't happen for us until after we had moved to Vermont, hence the disconnect.
                              The problem with that theory is that Obama never lived in Connecticut.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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