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Washington Transit Authority removes Christmas ad because it is religious.

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Faber View Post
    Again, I don't see where Congress or WMATA is violating the Diocese's freedom of speech or freedom of religion. Nobody has a right to require WMATA post anything somebody wishes to have posted. WMATA is within its rights to limit as it sees fit.
    I just find it highly ironic that they would disallow religious ads for a religious holiday while allowing commercial product ads for that same religious holiday. If they truly don't want to advertise anything religious then they should disallow any Christmas related ads.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      I just find it highly ironic that they would disallow religious ads for a religious holiday while allowing commercial product ads for that same religious holiday. If they truly don't want to advertise anything religious then they should disallow any Christmas related ads.
      On that I agree.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Faber View Post
        Again, I don't see where Congress or WMATA is violating the Diocese's freedom of speech or freedom of religion. Nobody has a right to require WMATA post anything somebody wishes to have posted. WMATA is within its rights to limit as it sees fit.
        Yes, actually, people DO have that right - public funding!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
          Yes, actually, people DO have that right - public funding!
          It's not a right if it's something they have to pay for. It's a privilege. And WMATA decided not to grant that privilege to political and religious groups.

          This isn't saying that I agree with that decision.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Faber View Post
            It's not a right if it's something they have to pay for. It's a privilege. And WMATA decided not to grant that privilege to political and religious groups.

            This isn't saying that I agree with that decision.
            They have to provide equal access (and they can't censor religious speech when providing a platform). That's the right (not the right to use it without paying).
            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Faber View Post
              It's not a right if it's something they have to pay for. It's a privilege. And WMATA decided not to grant that privilege to political and religious groups.

              This isn't saying that I agree with that decision.
              DE got this.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                They have to provide equal access (and they can't censor religious speech when providing a platform). That's the right (not the right to use it without paying).
                Seems that way. I won't provide you with advertising space (a cake) because I don't like your religious beliefs (lifestyle).
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                taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                  Seems that way. I won't provide you with advertising space (a cake) because I don't like your religious beliefs (lifestyle).
                  It's about public versus private. A private business can - or at least should be able to - discriminate however they please. A public utility, on the otherhand, is required to provide equal access. Otherwise, you end up in a situation where, say, the electric company could deny service to religious institutions.
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                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                  • #24
                    In a public venue, everyone pays therefore everyone is entitled to equal access. The Court long since ruled that a public venue can't bar religious ads/content/use if it is accepting secular ones.

                    It's a little murkier in the private venues - there are certain things you cannot discriminate against if you are open to the public. But conversely, being open to the public does not mean you are obligated to represent views foreign to your own. Ad agencies have every right to turn down porn clients, for example.

                    The CRA was misused, in my opinion, to support the anti-discrimination to the point of violating the First Amendment itself. It was never intended to survive perpetually and is already being dismantled - but the sooner the CRA goes now, the better.
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