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  • Did anyone listen to SCOTUS hearing today?

    I jumped in a decent way through, but it didn't seem to be going well for the authoritarians looking to exclude opposition candidates from the ballot.

    My favorite was when Murray was asked if Sec 3 was self executing, and took effect IMMEDIATELY on an action of the president, and all officers have a duty to react, would lower officers (such as military) still be required to follow orders Murray hemmed and hawed, and said that yes, they would because the president would still be president and could only be removed by impeachment. When it was pointed out that by the reasoning Murray had been using that wouldn't be the case, murray had no good answer.

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    Looks like Chucky Schumer will have to march over to the SCOTUS building and issue a few more threats against the justices if they don't do what he wants.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Looks like Chucky Schumer will have to march over to the SCOTUS building and issue a few more threats against the justices if they don't do what he wants.
      They will sleep in whirled peas?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
        I jumped in a decent way through, but it didn't seem to be going well for the authoritarians looking to exclude opposition candidates from the ballot.

        My favorite was when Murray was asked if Sec 3 was self executing, and took effect IMMEDIATELY on an action of the president, and all officers have a duty to react, would lower officers (such as military) still be required to follow orders Murray hemmed and hawed, and said that yes, they would because the president would still be president and could only be removed by impeachment. When it was pointed out that by the reasoning Murray had been using that wouldn't be the case, murray had no good answer.
        I have been reading articles - it seems that even Kagan and Jackson were not buying Colorado's arguments. I expect a 9-0 decision.
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post

          I have been reading articles - it seems that even Kagan and Jackson were not buying Colorado's arguments. I expect a 9-0 decision.
          This would be quite for the best.
          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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          • #6
            Originally posted by seer View Post

            I have been reading articles - it seems that even Kagan and Jackson were not buying Colorado's arguments. I expect a 9-0 decision.
            I wouldn't be surprised.

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            • #7
              I do stand by my original prediction from Sam 's thread that he refused to entertain:

              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

              What will likely happen.

              This 4-3 decision by a democrat nominated-supreme court (that couldn't even get it's own members to unanimously agree) will be hailed as perfectly logically sound argument that nobody could ever disagree with. It'll end up before SCOTUS and it'll be struck down (likely along partisan lines), The left will scream that this is just a badly decided partisan decision that is legally indefensible.
              Though, given what I heard to do, I wouldn't be surprised if my prediction on SCOTUS answering along partisan lines was incorrect.

              However, those who have become emotionally invested in the authoritarian option of barring opposition candidates from the ballot will likely still react like I predicted.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post

                This would be quite for the best.
                Absolutely. Ideally, whatever the decision it should be overwhelming.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #9
                  That wasn't exactly a bold prediction; indeed, I don't think anyone on this board predicted anything but SCOTUS reversing the Colorado supreme court's decision. Only questions are 1) what's the count and 2) what's the rationale.

                  -Sam
                  "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sam View Post
                    That wasn't exactly a bold prediction; indeed, I don't think anyone on this board predicted anything but SCOTUS reversing the Colorado supreme court's decision. Only questions are 1) what's the count and 2) what's the rationale.

                    -Sam
                    Never said it was. I stand by the prediction of hair-pulling and screaming into the air when it happens too.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sam View Post
                      That wasn't exactly a bold prediction; indeed, I don't think anyone on this board predicted anything but SCOTUS reversing the Colorado supreme court's decision. Only questions are 1) what's the count and 2) what's the rationale.

                      -Sam
                      True. For the most part, with a few exceptions, the law experts from both sides I heard or read were saying this wasn't a well thought out decision that will get overturned.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        True. For the most part, with a few exceptions, the law experts from both sides I heard or read were saying this wasn't a well thought out decision that will get overturned.
                        If only someone hadn't started a thread to discuss how great the decision was.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                          If only someone hadn't started a thread to discuss how great the decision was.
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #14
                            From what I've read so far, Kagan seems the most likely liberal member to join the conservatives while Sotomayor is the least.

                            Looks like Turley agrees regarding Sotomayor

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                              I jumped in a decent way through, but it didn't seem to be going well for the authoritarians looking to exclude opposition candidates from the ballot.

                              My favorite was when Murray was asked if Sec 3 was self executing, and took effect IMMEDIATELY on an action of the president, and all officers have a duty to react, would lower officers (such as military) still be required to follow orders Murray hemmed and hawed, and said that yes, they would because the president would still be president and could only be removed by impeachment. When it was pointed out that by the reasoning Murray had been using that wouldn't be the case, murray had no good answer.
                              I am not sure but I think it was Gorsuch but i liked the Justice who thanked Jason Murray for his answer but that it did not answer his question.

                              I'll need o watch the full SCOTUS arguments and question and answers on you tube when it is up loaded to make sure who and what was said.

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