Speaker Johnson Done For...

[rogue06]

Pretty doubtful that a sterile hybrid will evolve. How would it propogate?

It is. They're cloned.

[whag]

Pretty doubtful that a sterile seedless fruit will evolve. How would it propagate? why even have fruit?

I’m not sure what your point is. He concluded that fruit can’t evolve but must appear fully formed and teleologically customized for its eater. Remember that so I don’t have to say it again, please. That human beings can create seedless fruit is immaterial to his conclusion.

Many plants can reproduce without seeds, BTW:

The banana plant grows in an interesting way, it produces ‘suckers’ which are genetically identical to the original plant. These suckers can be cut off the original plant, planted in the ground, and they will grow into a fruit producing plant too. (This process is called propagation, and you can do it at home with many of your houseplants.) This makes for an easy way to create great numbers of banana plants that produce yummy fruit, but there is a downside too. All the plants grown this way are genetically identical, which makes them very susceptible to disease.

https://www.genomebc.ca/20-cool-geno...%20plant%20too.

[Cow Poke]

How much are you wagering? And how will you send me the money? Because you just lost. I will confess that I don't know who Ruby Freeman is.

Maybe she's the owner of the Ridge?

[Sparko]

I’m not sure what your point is. He concluded that fruit can’t evolve but must appear fully formed and teleologically customized for its eater. Remember that so I don’t have to say it again, please. That human beings can create seedless fruit is immaterial to his conclusion.

Many plants can reproduce without seeds, BTW:

The banana plant grows in an interesting way, it produces ‘suckers’ which are genetically identical to the original plant. These suckers can be cut off the original plant, planted in the ground, and they will grow into a fruit producing plant too. (This process is called propagation, and you can do it at home with many of your houseplants.) This makes for an easy way to create great numbers of banana plants that produce yummy fruit, but there is a downside too. All the plants grown this way are genetically identical, which makes them very susceptible to disease.

https://www.genomebc.ca/20-cool-geno...%20plant%20too.

I wasn't saying plants can't reproduce without seeds, I am saying that the banana tree we currently have produces seedless fruit and was made that way by human intervention. It would never have evolved that way. There would be no reason to have a sterile fruit if the plant evolved to propagate by suckers. Fruits only evolved to get animals to eat them and spread the seeds.

Again, I am not saying he had a good argument, he didn't. But he stumbled on the truth that the banana was intelligently designed. So his conclusion was correct, he just had the wrong designer.

[Mountain Man]

A “friendly bet” means no money.

That you don’t know who Ruby Freeman is proves you have no idea the malfeasance Trump was up to. You obviously just skim the highlights of biased articles, then pretend you know the full story of all the indicted characters.

Just like with evolution, you’re lazy.

[Mountain Man]

Maybe she's the owner of the Ridge?

I don't know, and since whag didn't bother to elaborate, he must not think it's that important, either

[Sparko]

I don't know, and since whag didn't bother to elaborate, he must not think it's that important, either

She's the woman that was on camera in Georgia supposedly messing with ballots.

[Mountain Man]

She's the woman that was on camera in Georgia supposedly messing with ballots.

Part of the group that tricked the official observers into leaving before suddenly producing cases full of ballots that they had kept carefully hidden under tablecloths and in backrooms?

[Sparko]

Part of the group that tricked the official observers into leaving before suddenly producing cases full of ballots that they had kept carefully hidden under tablecloths and in backrooms?

Yep. Her and her daughter.

[whag]

Part of the group that tricked the official observers into leaving before suddenly producing cases full of ballots that they had kept carefully hidden under tablecloths and in backrooms?

No, you Googled it having admitted you don’t even know who they are, then skimmed highlights rather than actually read about the case.

The actual report you won’t read:
https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/fil...20redacted.pdf

[Mountain Man]

No, you Googled it having admitted you don’t even know who they are, then skimmed highlights rather than actually read about the case.

The actual report you won’t read:
https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/fil...20redacted.pdf

I didn't Google anything. I responded to Sparko, and knowing the shenanigans that went on in Georgia during the 2020 ballot count, I simply asked if this Ruby person was one of those involved. He confirmed that she was.

[whag]

I didn't Google anything. I responded to Sparko, and knowing the shenanigans that went on in Georgia during the 2020 ballot count, I simply asked if this Ruby person was one of those involved. He confirmed that she was.

Knowing the “shenanigans” would entail knowing who Ruby Freeman was. The video of her and her daughter was central to the lie that they alone stole Georgia from Trump.

Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, falsely claimed that video footage showed the women engaging in “surreptitious illegal activity” and acting suspiciously, like drug dealers “passing out dope.” In early January, Trump himself singled out Freeman, by name, 18 times in a now-famous call in which he pressed Georgia officials to alter the state’s results. He called the 62-year-old temp worker a “professional vote scammer,” a “hustler” and a “known political operative” who “stuffed the ballot boxes.”

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...reats-georgia/

They’ve already won one case against Giuliani and have another one pending.

"Rather than simply play by the rules designed to promote a discovery process necessary to reach a fair decision on the merits of plaintiffs' claims, Giuliani has bemoaned plaintiffs' efforts to secure his compliance as 'punishment by process,'" Howell wrote in a 57-page opinion. "Donning a cloak of victimization may play well on a public stage to certain audiences, but in a court of law this performance has served only to subvert the normal process of discovery in a straight-forward defamation case, with the concomitant necessity of repeated court intervention."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-gi...-arshaye-moss/

Thanks for admitting you were too lazy to even Google what happened, Dunning Kruger.

[JimL]

I didn't Google anything. I responded to Sparko, and knowing the shenanigans that went on in Georgia during the 2020 ballot count, I simply asked if this Ruby person was one of those involved. He confirmed that she was.

I believe you in that you Googled nothing because you'd have to be completely uninformed about the case in Georgia to not know who Ruby and her daughter are. You knew perfectly well who they are and what the Trump team falsely accused them of. Even within the right wing bubble you live in their story has been widely publicized. So, one has to wonder why are you feigning ignorance?

[whag]

I believe you in that you Googled nothing because you'd have to be completely uninformed about the case in Georgia to not know who Ruby and her daughter are. You knew perfectly well who they are and what the Trump team falsely accused them of. Even within the right wing bubble you live in their story has been widely publicized. So, one has to wonder why are you feigning ignorance?

That’s a good point. I thought it strange that MM would claim to know the Georgia election “crime” story but not have any awareness of supposed criminals at the center. It stretches credulity that MM would claim to know the story but be oblivious to the two election workers who pulled off the crime he’s convinced took place.

[oxmixmudd]

Yep. Her and her daughter.

Yeah, this is one of those clear examples where Trump lovers ( and Democrat haters) are so 'interested in the facts' (not) that they are content to continue to repeat a completely false story that has ruined the lives of to normal people trying to contribute to this nation and who got caught in Trump's crosshairs. Will MM ever admit he is wrong? Will he ever feel even the slightest remorse for being part of a lie that brought death threats and fear to a mother and her daughter? That destroyed their capacity to live their lives in peace? Not likely.

That is what is so utterly sickening about this worship of Trump. Even Christians are content to destroy innocent people's lives if it will make their little Gold Idol look a little better.

There is a judgement coming. Jesus had nothing Good to say about people who put their desires and their lust for power ahead of the innocent and poor of this world. And every one who repeats these lies and perpetuates the hatred of these two ladies will face that judgement unless they repent. What does he say to those who turned a deaf ear to those in need when they proclaim what they did in His name? DEPART FROM ME YOU WICKED, FOR I NEVER KNEW YOU!