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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    Another poll indicating the same:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/1...trump-00124855



    Just a historical observation, Ross Perot got a little under 19 percent of the vote. And we're only just getting started into 'election season' now.
    RFK Jr. has come out in support of reparations, which the MSM is barely mentioning because they know this would siphon a sizable amount of black support from old Joe. As it becomes better known we may see the majority of votes he gets coming from Democrat voters.

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  • Ronson
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    I can't help but notice his lack of symmetry. Perhaps that's fitting for someone who is half Democrat and half Republican.

    rfk jr.jpg

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  • Hypatia_Alexandria
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    Just to lighten the mood. An amusing take on Robert F Kennedy Jr from Private Eye's Spot the Difference



    How Robert F Kennedy running as an independent for President thinks he looks:





    How he actually looks, i.e. like Connor in Succession





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  • Diogenes
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    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
    I'm 100% for a spoiled Democrat win.

    ETA: I'd rather Trump not be the nominee, but as far as the general election, I'd rather it not be a Democrat.

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    No it was specifically one that looked at a Trump vs Biden. When it was generic he took about evenly
    Another poll indicating the same:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/1...trump-00124855


    Spoiler alert? Poll has RFK Jr. grabbing 22 percent against Biden and Trump


    The former Democratic candidate also got the backing of a plurality of independents in the Quinnipiac University survey.

    Running with a promise to “spoil” the 2024 presidential contest, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just received a sign that he might be making good on that pitch: A recent poll shows him with 22 percent support in a hypothetical three-way race against President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

    Biden, by contrast, would take 39 percent of the vote, and Trump would come away with 36 percent, according to the Quinnipiac University’s survey. In another positive sign for Kennedy, he came away with the backing of a plurality of independents: 36 percent chose him, compared with 31 percent for Trump and 30 percent for Biden.

    The overall 22 percent does not suggest he can yet break through the two-party system and put his name on the Electoral College map next year as an independent. But the bigger threat his candidacy poses to Biden and Trump is the possibility of siphoning just enough votes from one of them to swing an otherwise coin-flip state in November.


    The Quinnipiac poll, which surveyed 1,610 self-identified registered voters, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.4 percentage points. The telephone survey was conducted Oct 26-30, a period that includes Rep. Dean Phillips’ (D-Minn.) entry into the Democratic primary.


    The poll also suggests that Kennedy is pulling more support from Trump than Biden, a finding that matches his Super PAC’s past polling. In a race just between the two former presidents, the Quinnipiac poll projects a near dead heat: 47 percent of registered voters would support the Democratic incumbent over his Republican predecessor’s 46 percent. That result matches many other head-to-head surveys from the last few months, and suggests that Kennedy’s independent candidacy has the potential to inject a further twist into what has long been depicted as a match-up of former presidents.

    In a warning sign for Democrats, Kennedy was the leading choice for young voters, aged 18-34, in the poll’s surveyed population — 38 percent of whom chose the environmental lawyer. From the same age group, 32 percent picked Biden and 27 percent went for Trump.

    Kennedy, detailing his disenchantment with partisan politics and what he has called an unfair Democratic primary system, declared his independent presidential bid last month. He had no real chance to win the Democratic primary, as the national party apparatus had already gotten behind Biden’s reelection bid. His skeptical views on vaccine efficacy have also inflamed a significant portion of his former party.

    The poll is just another sign that Kennedy’s independent bid might have significant appeal from Americans wary of another Trump or Biden presidency. A recent POLITICO analysis recently found that Kennedy has pulled millions of dollars from people who didn’t donate in the past two presidential elections. That analysis also found that his financial backing more often come from those who gave to Trump rather than to Biden.
    Just a historical observation, Ross Perot got a little under 19 percent of the vote. And we're only just getting started into 'election season' now.

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

    Well, RFK Jr. made it official today, he's an independent now. Should make the election interesting, if nothing else.
    Indeed it will.

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    No it was specifically one that looked at a Trump vs Biden. When it was generic he took about evenly
    Well, RFK Jr. made it official today, he's an independent now. Should make the election interesting, if nothing else.

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

    Depends on who the candidates are. In a Biden vs Trump contest, I think he'll get more from Democrats. But if Trump vs anyone else, he'll definitely take from Trump.
    No it was specifically one that looked at a Trump vs Biden. When it was generic he took about evenly

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    I actually saw a recent poll that suggested he could pull slightly more from Republicans than from democrats
    Depends on who the candidates are. In a Biden vs Trump contest, I think he'll get more from Democrats. But if Trump vs anyone else, he'll definitely take from Trump.

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post

    Very odd for you to pick that post to comment that on. The rumor of Buchanan having been closeted is not exactly an exclusively Christian idea.
    And it's not a new idea. I think the suggestion has been floating around since at least the 1970s, when I first heard it. I imagine his contemporaries also had suspicions, although I don't know if they rose to publication status.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post

    Very odd for you to pick that post to comment that on. The rumor of Buchanan having been closeted is not exactly an exclusively Christian idea.
    And AFAICT there is nothing particular to the belief that he was or wasn't that is particularly Christian.

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  • KingsGambit
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    Originally posted by JimL View Post

    Damn, havent visited this thread for a while, but you guys really are bat do do crazy!
    Very odd for you to pick that post to comment that on. The rumor of Buchanan having been closeted is not exactly an exclusively Christian idea.

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rfk-...2024%20contest.

    If he runs as an independent, a Republican will win the White House.

    Assuming 'the machine' doesn't have him stopped.
    I actually saw a recent poll that suggested he could pull slightly more from Republicans than from democrats

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  • JimL
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

    The suspicion isn't based purely on the relationship between those two. From what I had read, he was courting a young lady early in his career with the motive of marrying to establish his credibility. When she died unexpectedly, her father denied Buchanan from attending the funeral. He never seriously courted again, during a rather long life.

    Like I said, nothing solid, just suspicious.
    Damn, havent visited this thread for a while, but you guys really are bat do do crazy!

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Seems to be wishful thinking and not much else.
    The suspicion isn't based purely on the relationship between those two. From what I had read, he was courting a young lady early in his career with the motive of marrying to establish his credibility. When she died unexpectedly, her father denied Buchanan from attending the funeral. He never seriously courted again, during a rather long life.

    Like I said, nothing solid, just suspicious.

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