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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Curious that this would come out now when things are getting uncomfortable for the Biden family. A case of accusing your political opponents of what you are guilty of?
    Come out now? It's been out at least a good couple years, you've just had your nose too far up Trump's and Putin's rear ends to notice.
    Last edited by Gondwanaland; 09-24-2023, 02:28 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

      I knew about the business deal, which seemed much ado about nothing. This is the first I've heard about the Saudis bragging that Kushner supposedly fed them classified information.

      That you have only just noticed it now does not mean it came out now.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

        So, unnamed sources claim from a paper with such a poor reputation of checking facts and sources that even Wikipedia has banned it? That's the information you are relying on?
        He was responding to a moron who was trying to declare that this information was only coming out now as an attempt to distract or accuse others when Hunter started feeling the heat. The link he provided clearly shows that the info has been known for years, cutting MM's absurdly ignorant argument at it's knees. Whether you find the paper in question reputable is irrelevant here.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

          As long as it tells him what he wants to hear, he'll accept it with no questions asked.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

            I mean, here's the two big questions that come to mind:

            1. If it's such a bad source, why is he using it?
            2. Given that it's such a bad source, why is he calling someone low information for having not seen that story...it would make sense someone's not reading a bad source.
            He used it because all that was needed was a date to show that MM was full of crap, and that the story had been reported on for apparently 5 years or so, not like MM was falsely claiming.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
              That you have only just noticed it now does not mean it came out now.
              Fair enough. It's odd that this story doesn't seem to have gotten a lot of traction in the media.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                At this point it is nothing but rumors.

                Let's see if there is anything nearly like the amount of evidence supporting the claim as there is with Hunter and old Joe.
                Because it keeps coming up, there's news from Earth 1 y'all should finally take on board.

                Hunter Biden joined the Burisma board in April 2014, the same month the UK seized $23 million in Zlochevsky's assets.

                This is from eight years ago, really old news.
                .
                “In the case of former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, the U.K. authorities had seized $23 million in illicit assets that belonged to the Ukrainian people,” Mr. Pyatt said. Officials at the prosecutor general’s office, he added, were asked by the United Kingdom “to send documents supporting the seizure. Instead they sent letters to Zlochevsky’s attorneys attesting that there was no case against him. As a result, the money was freed by the U.K. court, and shortly thereafter the money was moved to Cyprus.”

                In February 2015, at the time Shokin replaced Yarema, the Ukrainian Prosecutor General's office was bought and paid for by Burisma. Payoffs from Burisma and similarly placed corrupt oligarchs were a perk of the job. Everybody knew this. The Ukrainians knew it. There were street protests demanding Shokin's resignation. There is no reality in which Zlochevsky would want Shokin fired.

                Burisma and similar cases were why the US administration, the EU, the World Bank, and the IMF were all calling for Shokin's replacement.

                Do you think maybe Joe Biden influenced all of them, too?

                Joe Biden bragged about getting rid of Shokin (in what amounted to an exaggeration), and y'all can't figure that means he was shouldering in for credit on a job everyone wanted done. Utterly unsurpsingly, five years of investigation by Weiss uncovered no evidence of corrupt influence in Ukraine by Hunter Biden, or his dad.

                It's time to let it go, rouge.

                There is no there there.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  Fair enough. It's odd that this story doesn't seem to have gotten a lot of traction in the media.
                  I suspect seeing what happened to a fellow journalist who crossed the Saudis plays a part.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                    I suspect seeing what happened to a fellow journalist who crossed the Saudis plays a part.
                    Why would that stop the US media from reporting on it?
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                      Why would that stop the US media from reporting on it?
                      Because they saw what happened to a fellow journalist and long-term US resident (with two children who are US Citizens) who crossed the Saudis. Try reading.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                        Because they saw what happened to a fellow journalist and long-term US resident (with two children who are US Citizens) who crossed the Saudis. Try reading.
                        That happened in Saudi Arabia, you dope. So I ask again, why would that stop anybody in the US from reporting it?
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                          That happened in Saudi Arabia, you dope. So I ask again, why would that stop anybody in the US from reporting it?
                          Um no, perhaps you should do even a modicum of research before telling someone else that they are a dope, you utter braindead twit. It happened in Istanbul, Turkey, and was carried out by Saudi agents from Saudi Arabia (which, for the geographically challened morons like yourself, is not part of Turkey) who came there to abduct and assassinate someone in a foreign country, who had crossed Saudi Arabia.

                          So, again, I answer: Because they saw what happened to a fellow journalist and long-term US resident (with two children who are US Citizens) who crossed the Saudis. Try reading.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                            Why would that stop the US media from reporting on it?
                            My guess is the "sources" refused to go on the record for fear of being killed, so that left the mainstream media in a situation of having to reference The Daily Mail as a "source," and they didn't want to do that. If the original report had come out in the NYT, then they would all report on it and reference the NYT as "the source." They don't seem to have any problem risking their reputations for the NYT.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                              It's just funny, given his previous comments about Daily Mail:
                              Correct I don't like the Daily Mail. Other people here, specifically including MM who I was replying to, tend to cite it. So when I was looking at the different variations on that article published by various outlets and choosing which one to cite for MM, I chose the one from the source he prefers rather than one of the sources I would prefer.

                              He often claims to be well-informed, yet here he was expressing a complete lack of knowledge about a story that a source he commonly cites had run.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Correct I don't like the Daily Mail. Other people here, specifically including MM who I was replying to, tend to cite it. So when I was looking at the different variations on that article published by various outlets and choosing which one to cite for MM, I chose the one from the source he prefers rather than one of the sources I would prefer.

                                He often claims to be well-informed, yet here he was expressing a complete lack of knowledge about a story that a source he commonly cites had run.
                                Up until about 18 months ago when you mentioned the story here, I hadn't heard about it either. It isn't a widely-reported story, and that's been one of my complaints. I should have heard about - it should be investigated. Even the MSM has avoided it and I find it perplexing. I mean, even if all it amounted to was to again interview one of the unnamed "sources" for more detail, that might provide something to latch hitch a wagon to. But there's been almost nothing that I've seen.

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