Liberals burning unborn children for heating now

[Paprika]

Shall we then burn your skin?

[firstfloor]

Shall we then burn your skin?

[seasanctuary]

it's still morbid to use human remains for energy with trash.

Right. It would be morbid if it were amputated limbs or anything like that.

It's sensationalist rhetoric, generally speaking, to pair up something under dispute with something pretty much everyone is going to be uncomfortable hearing.

[Sparko]

Apparently nothing Mr. Hitler.

[seasanctuary]

This is the prevailing belief of all intelligent pro-choice people. For example, the current President of Planned Parenthood

Not all, at any rate. Some of us don't consider the personhood of an embryo/fetus/infant as dependent on the woman's attitudes. The reason abortion is morally acceptable is that early fetuses and embryos simply aren't people, no matter how anyone feels about them.

[Bill the Cat]

Not all, at any rate. Some of us don't consider the personhood of an embryo/fetus/infant as dependent on the woman's attitudes. The reason abortion is morally acceptable is that early fetuses and embryos simply aren't people, no matter how anyone feels about them.

The distinction between "person" and "human being" is an artificial construct, and a nauseating excuse to treat deceased members of our species as equal to a used milk carton.

[seasanctuary]

The distinction between "person" and "human being" is an artificial construct, and a nauseating excuse to treat deceased members of our species as equal to a used milk carton.

There's no conflict between recognizing that embryos and early fetuses are not people (or "human beings" when used synonymously) and wanting to treat all "deceased members of our species" with some respect. It doesn't have to be an "all value" or "no value" thing.

[Sparko]

Not all, at any rate. Some of us don't consider the personhood of an embryo/fetus/infant as dependent on the woman's attitudes. The reason abortion is morally acceptable is that early fetuses and embryos simply aren't people, no matter how anyone feels about them.

Jews weren't people to Nazi's either. But they were human beings. "Person" is a artificial designation that governments and others use to dehumanize other human beings. Don't like Jews, why then they are not people. Let's kill them! Don't like unborn humans? Why they aren't people. Let's kill them! Blacks? Not persons! Gays? Not persons! Someone in a coma? Not a person! Unplug them!

Liberal weenies like Seasanctuary who have no qualms about killing unborn babies? Not persons!

[seasanctuary]

Jews weren't people to Nazi's either. But they were human beings. "Person" is a artificial designation that governments and others use to dehumanize other human beings. Don't like Jews, why then they are not people. Let's kill them! Don't like unborn humans? Why they aren't people. Let's kill them! Blacks? Not persons! Gays? Not persons! Someone in a coma? Not a person! Unplug them!

No one dislikes embryos as a class. Embryos aren't suffering from prejudice. They don't even have minds. What's artificial is to treat them like human beings who do have a mental existence / souls / etc.

[Christianbookworm]

Right. It would be morbid if it were amputated limbs or anything like that.

It's sensationalist rhetoric, generally speaking, to pair up something under dispute with something pretty much everyone is going to be uncomfortable hearing.

Human remains is a "euphemism" for a dead body i.e. the whole thing. If it were gall bladders and tonsils being burned up, wouldn't care.

[firstfloor]

Apparently nothing Mr. Hitler.

Why are you not as sensitive about your distant cousin, the pig, whose cooked flesh sustains you?

[Sparko]

No one dislikes embryos as a class. Embryos aren't suffering from prejudice. They don't even have minds. What's artificial is to treat them like human beings who do have a mental existence / souls / etc.

Riigggghht.

[Bill the Cat]

There's no conflict between recognizing that embryos and early fetuses are not people (or "human beings" when used synonymously) and wanting to treat all "deceased members of our species" with some respect. It doesn't have to be an "all value" or "no value" thing.

There absolutely is because embryos and early fetuses ARE human beings. As Sparko said, "Person" is a artificial designation that governments and others use to dehumanize other human beings. There is no argument in the biological arena that an embryo and a fetus are interdependent stages of an individual member of our species' growth and development, and that no change in species occurs at any stage, from fertilization to death.

[Bill the Cat]

Why are you not as sensitive about your distant cousin, the pig, whose cooked flesh sustains you?

Because they are not of our species.

[Sparko]

Why are you not as sensitive about your distant cousin, the pig, whose cooked flesh sustains you?

Why aren't you concerned about treating human beings like meat? When was the last time you BBQ'd human fetus for a cookout?