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  • #31
    https://www.jta.org/2022/09/30/globa...-to-take-power

    The success of Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party in Italy’s national election last week means the country is poised to have its most right-wing government since World War II, when Italy was Hitler’s staunchest ally in Europe.

    The prospect has unnerved many Italian Jews, even as several of their leaders appear to be taking a wait-and-see approach to Meloni’s leadership, refraining from making public statements about the results.

    “Faced with the prospect of a prime minister that is affiliated with a party that ideologically is the heir of the Italian Social Movement, a good part of Italian Jews are concerned,” David Fiorentini, president of Italy’s Jewish Youth group, told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

    Meloni’s first stop in politics was in the youth movement of the Italian Social Movement, known as MSI, a neofascist party founded in 1946 by people who had worked with Hitler and Benito Mussolini, Italy’s fascist leader from 1922 to 1943. Brothers of Italy is closely tied to the group, even housing its office in the same building where MSI operated and using an identical logo, a tricolor flame.


    This obviously suggests something, given Italy's history.
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

      You think Germany was the only country with far right leanings in the 1930s?

      Across the world, the far right has never gone away, and in some instances what used to be lunatic fringe is now worryingly moving into the mainstream.
      Notice how quickly her standard shifts as soon as we bring up her country? Apparently Nazi history doesn't imply anything, yet history of other countries/areas do.

      Hypocrite_Alexandria strikes again.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

        Notice how quickly her standard shifts as soon as we bring up her country? Apparently Nazi history doesn't imply anything, yet history of other countries/areas do.

        Hypocrite_Alexandria strikes again.
        Do you really think Germany was the only alt-right/fascist state in the 1930s?

        And do you think only Germany had fascists in the 1930s?
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

          Do you really think Germany was the only alt-right/fascist state in the 1930s?

          And do you think only Germany had fascists in the 1930s?
          Suddenly you discover nuance? Double standard much?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            I think it was shuny who started a thread listing several attacks on Asians and claiming they were the result of OMB calling Covid the "Chinese virus" and yet even the most cursory examination revealed that in every case the attackers were from a certain demographic that typically votes for Democrats 90% of the time.
            To clarify, shuny didn't start the thread.

            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            The narrative that Trump supporters were even the ones involved in the widely reported incidents didn't stand up to even a cursory examination if anyone bothered to take 5 minutes to look.

            A few months ago shuny posted some stuff about this, including an NBC story that found Anti-Asian hate crimes increased by nearly 150% in 2020, mostly in N.Y. and L.A., new report says. Of course the locations where this increase was said to be taking place and the significance of it failed to sink in.

            Having bothered to at least skim through the evidence I posted the following:

            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            What's interesting is that when you read about an incident you find that in a large number of them where there is information concerning the alleged attacker, it turns out that they belong to various groups that did not support Trump. Like the Febreze spraying incident in the NY subway that was video taped. Not likely a Trump supporter.

            Another story that received national attention was an attack on an 85 year old Thai man, Vicha Ratanapakdee, who died as a result of his head hitting the pavement during an attack in downtown San Francisco (a well-known hotbed of pro-Trump activity). CNN's coverage was typical in that they left out the detail that the killer was a black man who apparently ran across the street in order to attack him. Just that "a 19-year-old man was arrested." Likewise the New York Times, which quickly pivoted to linking it to Trump.

            Another story that gained a lot of traction was that of Noriko Nasu, A Japanese woman who was attacked in downtown Seattle (another pro-Trump hot spot). Again coverage avoided describing the attacker. But when he was charged pictures of him again indicated he belonged to a group that didn't support Trump.

            In fact, in an article from NBC's Today Show, the case of Nasu and two other Asians were discussed in detail, except for any description of the attacker.

            Noel Quintana, a Filipino, who was viciously slashed across his face with a box cutter requiring a hundred stitches, was attacked by a Pashawn Boykins while riding a New York subway (like the Febreze sprayer, and again an area widely known for backing Trump). I cannot find any description but given the name the odds are extremely high he is, like Nasu and Ratanapakdee's attackers, black.

            The third, Denny Kim, was attacked in downtown Los Angeles (yet another bastion of Trump support) by gang members saying racial slurs. Last time I checked, there aren't a whole lot of white gang members in downtown Los Angeles.

            The one thing that the MSM has been trying to obfuscate is the race of the attackers. From all reports, blacks constitute a very sizeable percentage of them. Even Al Sharpton has noticed and declared, "When Blacks attack Asians, Black leaders need to stand up."

            Apparently, the view that it is largely blacks that have instigated the attacks led NBC to report on it but only to cite a study that found that "revealed more than three-quarters of offenders of anti-Asian hate crimes and incidents, from both before and during the pandemic, have been white, contrary to many of the images circulating online" and from the angle of expressing concern about "long-term consequences for racial solidarity."

            The truth be damned, "racial solidarity" is at stake!

            Of course whites constitute three-quarters of the population so that shouldn't be a surprise and there was suspicious silence about what percent that blacks commit given they represent 12.5% of the population.

            Moreover, the last I checked, Biden got 43% of the white vote, so not every white person is a Trump supporter -- especially in urban areas where it seems that the majority of these incidents take place (that MAGA hat wearing white men would be hanging around downtown Chicago late at night was one of the first red flags that made police suspicious of the Jussie Smollett hoax).



            I'm always still in trouble again

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              You think Germany was the only country with far right leanings in the 1930s?

              Across the world, the far right has never gone away, and in some instances what used to be lunatic fringe is now worryingly moving into the mainstream.
              Looks like the hypocrite got her ox gored.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                Looks like someone got uncomfortable and seeks to deflect attention.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                  https://www.jta.org/2022/09/30/globa...-to-take-power

                  The success of Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party in Italy’s national election last week means the country is poised to have its most right-wing government since World War II, when Italy was Hitler’s staunchest ally in Europe.

                  The prospect has unnerved many Italian Jews, even as several of their leaders appear to be taking a wait-and-see approach to Meloni’s leadership, refraining from making public statements about the results.

                  “Faced with the prospect of a prime minister that is affiliated with a party that ideologically is the heir of the Italian Social Movement, a good part of Italian Jews are concerned,” David Fiorentini, president of Italy’s Jewish Youth group, told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

                  Meloni’s first stop in politics was in the youth movement of the Italian Social Movement, known as MSI, a neofascist party founded in 1946 by people who had worked with Hitler and Benito Mussolini, Italy’s fascist leader from 1922 to 1943. Brothers of Italy is closely tied to the group, even housing its office in the same building where MSI operated and using an identical logo, a tricolor flame.


                  This obviously suggests something, given Italy's history.
                  Wait until you hear about the history of the Democrat party. Also "most right-wing government since WW2" is a scare tactic given that the governments would have consistently leaned more left. It just means a not-as-left party won.
                  P1) If , then I win.

                  P2)

                  C) I win.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                    Wait until you hear about the history of the Democrat party.


                    The KKK, Jim Crow Laws, segregation, racial lynchings... are all hallmarks of that party.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                      Suddenly you discover nuance? Double standard much?
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Looks like the hypocrite got her ox gored.
                      I have never defended Hitler's Germany but you both seem to believe that Germany was the only fascist state or the only country with fascists in the 1920s and 1930s.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



                        I have never defended Hitler's Germany but you both seem to believe that Germany was the only fascist state or the only country with fascists in the 1920s and 1930s.
                        Did we say that? We are just using your own logic on "history suggesting something" applied to your own state. Suddenly you find reasons why that logic shouldn't apply or hint at something.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



                          I have never defended Hitler's Germany but you both seem to believe that Germany was the only fascist state or the only country with fascists in the 1920s and 1930s.
                          Yeah. That's exactly what I believe in spite of posting a good deal about the founder of Fascism, Mussolini.

                          Face it. Hypocrite that you are you did not like it one little bit when your smarmy, self-satisfying remark got turned around on you causing you to get very defensive.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Did we say that? We are just using your own logic on "history suggesting something" applied to your own state. Suddenly you find reasons why that logic shouldn't apply or hint at something.
                            So why bring up Germany and anti-Semitism? Why not Burmese Buddhists and the Rohingya? Or China and the Uyghurs?

                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Yeah. That's exactly what I believe in spite of posting a good deal about the founder of Fascism, Mussolini.

                              Face it. Hypocrite that you are you did not like it one little bit when your smarmy, self-satisfying remark got turned around on you causing you to get very defensive.
                              Once again you feign ESP talents.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                                According to this story the officer's name is Greg Capers. Here is a photo of him from two years ago.

                                capers.jpg

                                https://www.enterprise-tocsin.com/co...policeman-year

                                That award did not age well.
                                That gels with another article I read where the lawyer for the family stated the officer had been Policeman of the Year, and also apparently hadn't received any punishment for an incident the lawyer had also dealt with a year or three ago where the officer tased a handcuffed person

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