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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
I blame Christians for their lack of compassion and hostility."You should just assume going forward that if I am ever wrong it is a typo" - Backup
"Reality simply does not change based upon consensus or desire." - rogue
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
Everything we know about transgender Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale
The shooter who stormed a private Christian elementary school in Nashville on Monday, killing three students and three staffers, was identified as a 28-year-old white transgender woman named Audrey Hale who once attended the school, authorities said.
The suspect — who was killed by officers — was also a Nashville resident, police said. The shooter was later identified as Hale, NBC reported.
Women make up just 2% of mass shooters across the country, according to the Violence Project database, and Monday’s shooter is just the fifth female mass shooter in US history.
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Hale, who said they used he/him pronouns in online profiles was wielding two assault-style rifles and a pistol, was killed by responding officers when they found her on the second floor of the school.
Police said it appears Hale had previously been a student at the school but it wasn’t immediately clear when or for how long.
The school had a protocol for an active shooter, but it wasn’t immediately clear if this was put in place during the shooting. Police said at a press conference Monday afternoon Hale had entered the school through a side door by shooting at it.
Police said they received the initial call about an active shooter at 10:13 a.m. The responding officers quickly began clearing the first story of the school after hearing gunshots coming from the second floor.
The shooter was killed by cops at 10:27 a.m., officials said.
The victims were subsequently pronounced dead at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital and Vanderbilt University Medical Center, according to police.
Officials identified the three slain students as Evelyn Dieckhaus, Hallie Scruggs, and William Kinney, all age 9.
The three faculty members killed were Cynthia Peak and Mike Hill, both 61, and school head Katherine Koonce, 60
The Covenant School is a Presbyterian school for about 200 students from preschool through sixth grade. The school has roughly 50 staff members.
Hale is a biological female who identifies as a male yet folks are calling this a mass shooting by a female.
Personally, I agree, but consistency is being ignored.
Still, I don't think there is any doubt this was a targeted shooting any more.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
Grow up, for pity’s sake. I mean that it is not the sort of thing that a woman would do, and, Christians and trans people don’t get on. I blame Christians for their lack of compassion and hostility.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
Grow up, for pity’s sake. I mean that it is not the sort of thing that a woman would do, and, Christians and trans people don’t get on. I blame Christians for their lack of compassion and hostility.P1) If, then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
I wonder if CNN and other liberal news media will respect the shooters preferred pronouns.
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The US has >6x school shootings than the rest of the world combined, despite having less than 5% of the population.
OnionShootings.JPG"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
And you just proved my point. You blame Christians. Funny, Nero did the same thing.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostIt's a bit confusing. They are calling Hale a transgender woman, meaning a biological male who identified as female.
However, it seems it was a biological woman. My emphasis.
From the BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...mpaign=KARANGA
There has been some confusion about Hale's gender identity - with police initially describing the attacker as a woman, and later saying that Hale identified as transgender.
A police spokesperson told Washington Post that Hale "is a biological woman who, on a social media profile, used male pronouns".
The shooter was armed with three guns, including a semi-automatic rifle, and was shot dead by police.
They had left a manifesto and had drawn a detailed map of the school, with entry points. Police are now studying those documents.
Hale, who had no criminal record, was a former student at the school and officers said they believe "resentment" may have been a motive
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A search of a nearby parked car led officers to "firmly believe" that Hale was a former student of the school, said police.
Police spoke with the attacker's father during a search of a nearby home that was listed as the shooter's address.
Nashville Police Chief John Drake said investigators there found a manifesto and "a map of how all of this was going to play out", including entry and exit points at the school building.
He also said the shooter had conducted surveillance while planning the attack.
In a search of the shooter's home, more weapons were recovered, in addition to the ones used in the attack, including a sawed-off shotgun and a second shotgun.
Hale's mother, Norma Hale, told ABC News: "It is very, very difficult right now", before asking for privacy.
I also found this here https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-...ry?id=98166039
Which would seem to bear out the BBC's comment.
Although resentment seems a very odd reason for such an attack, in the mind of someone who is severely mentally disturbed the slightest thing may take on great significance.Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 03-28-2023, 05:10 AM."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post.
Although resentment seems a very odd reason for such an attack, in the mind of someone who is severely mentally disturbed the slightest thing may take on great significance.
Resentment is the most fitting reason given the mentality of "affirm trans or else". Of course, if a white man left a manifesto, you would be focused on the manifesto and the mental disturbance.P1) If, then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Although resentment seems a very odd reason for such an attack, in the mind of someone who is severely mentally disturbed the slightest thing may take on great significance.
If this was a political attack, it's possible the attack on a christian school was for symbolic reasons. The reason the shooter chose this particular school could have been due to familiarity. "Someone should attack christians like they attack 'us'.... I know a place.... I hated it. "
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Note: This is pure speculation, and not at all a claim of knowledge of facts.
If this was a political attack, it's possible the attack on a christian school was for symbolic reasons. The reason the shooter chose this particular school could have been due to familiarity. "Someone should attack christians like they attack 'us'.... I know a place.... I hated it. "
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostIt's a bit confusing. They are calling Hale a transgender woman, meaning a biological male who identified as female.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Resentment is the most fitting reason given the mentality of "affirm trans or else". Of course, if a white man left a manifesto, you would be focused on the manifesto and the mental disturbance.
Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Note: This is pure speculation, and not at all a claim of knowledge of facts.
That this individual apparently used male pronouns on social media is not conclusive evidence that this was a transgender individual. Unless you have some evidence that [insofar as I am aware] has not been widely reported.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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