When does Renaissance sculpture become "pornography"? Discuss!

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You know, I'd much rather be guilty of a typo

Except that when it comes to misusing the plural [phenomena] for the singular [phenomenon] you regularly make the mistake.

than to foolishly assert that something didn't exist until someone coined the current popular term for it.

The exception being that I never have stated homosexuality did not exist until a term was coined for the practice.

So once again you display your tendency towards being mendacious and caricaturing what other people write.

[rogue06]

Except that when it comes to misusing the plural [phenomena] for the singular [phenomenon] you regularly make the mistake.

The exception being that I never have stated homosexuality did not exist until a term was coined for the practice.

So once again you display your tendency towards being mendacious and caricaturing what other people write.

You claimed that the Bible's prohibition of it doesn't count because the word homosexual didn't exist until the 19th century.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You claimed that the Bible's prohibition of it doesn't count because the word homosexual didn't exist until the 19th century.

Given the repeated issues you demonstrate with regard to your failing memory, you will need to provide my exact quote.

[rogue06]

Given the repeated issues you demonstrate with regard to your failing memory, you will need to provide my exact quote.

Homosexuality cannot be "condemned in multiple places in the NT" as the term was not coined until the nineteenth century [and by yet another German]! Paul's views on prostitution and what he considered to be sexual immorality are more complex.

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What can I say? I suck at photoshopping.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

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To paraphrase Uhtred context is all.

My comment that you have quoted was in response to this:

uh no. Homosexuality is condemned in multiple places in the NT also, and it falls under "sexual immorality" not "ritual purity" - it is a moral code.

Homosexuality cannot be "condemned in multiple places in the NT" as the term was not coined until the nineteenth century [and by yet another German]! Paul's views on prostitution and what he considered to be sexual immorality are more complex.

Sparko got himself into further confusion when he wrote this.

no. Just because the word abomination is used in both cases doesn't mean that both are "ritual purity" - that's one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. Abomination means something that causes disgust. God can be disgusted by something immoral or impure. And a sexual act is a moral act. It falls under sexual morality/immorality.

However, we know that same sex relationships existed and that in the Hebrew text of Leviticus and from the hand of a priestly author they are condemned. Whether that author was reflecting the entirety of ancient Israelite culture or his own particular view is of course entirely unknown. Certainly there are far more textual injunctions and prohibitions dealing with dietary codes and the correct slaughter of animals than there are on that particular topic.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Returning to the topic of this thread, my copy of Private Eye arrived today and one of the cartoons in this latest edition was captioned

Michelangelo's David (adjusted for Florida's censors)

The cartoon had the sculpture holding a very large firearm over the appropriate parts of his anatomy.

[rogue06]

To paraphrase Uhtred context is all.

That "context" didn't change anything.

You posited the notion that the NT couldn't have been referring to homosexuality because that term did not exist back then

Face it...

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And your excuse making is just making it worse.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

That "context" didn't change anything.

You posited the notion that the NT couldn't have been referring to homosexuality because that term did not exist back then

Face it...

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And your excuse making is just making it worse.

That you have difficulties comprehending what has been written is not only my opinion!